Truck payload question

[BHD]

Okay , I want to hear your definitions of 1/4 , 1/2 , 3/4 , and 1 ton trucks . Explain the ratings with facts . Why the ton measure ? I know for a fact , a 1/2 ton truck is not gonna haul 1000# of rock or sand very far . Excuse my ignorance .

MY opinion,

the best I can come up with is the ton rating is a old military cross country rating, (cargo weight)

I do not know when it became popular, but my guess is ex military under stood (post ww2) what a 1/2 ton rated truck could do and what a larger ton rated truck was capable of, most likely more of a selling point,

I have a old 6X6 2 1/2 ton truck, the cross country rating is 5000 pounds but the highway rating is about 10,000.



but the best way is to go off of the GVW tag


even tho the ton rating is still used going by truck classifications probably more accurate, today


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification
http://voices.yahoo.com/guide-truck-classes-light-medium-heavy-duty-5266315.html?cat=27
http://www.wrcog.cog.ca.us/downloads/050205 Truck Type Appendix.pdf

 

[newbury]

Okay , I want to hear your definitions of 1/4 , 1/2 , 3/4 , and 1 ton trucks . Explain the ratings with facts . Why the ton measure ? I know for a fact , a 1/2 ton truck is not gonna haul 1000# of rock or sand very far . Excuse my ignorance .

Try wikipedia for an accurate answer.

 

[Midniteoyl]

On my f-250 according to specs my front axle is overloaded with 2 passengers in the truck and I can only haul like 1600 lbs to exceed the GVW of the truck. SOOO take these ratings with a grain of salt. With my 9'4" v-plow and weight in the back the truck weighs in at 10,200 lbs and handles it like it is not loaded at all. The plow/bracket weighs in at 1200lbs. The front axle weighs 5500lbs and is only "rated" at 4400 it has been hauling this from day one in the winter every winter for 10 years with no issues and 1 set of ball joints. I purchased a 2000 GM 3/4 ton that was "rated" to do the job and had to replace the torsion bars because of the front end sagging and front brakes every 30k miles because of being so small. So again I take these ratings as rough guidelines and talk to people who know from experience what is going on. Tire and axle ratings tell me more than anything. CJ

If you get into a wreck, the insurance companys might take issue with you being overloaded. The RV world had the same issues of being over weight with just people in them as the OEMs where building way over weight.

 

[Midniteoyl]

MY opinion,

the best I can come up with is the ton rating is a old military cross country rating, (cargo weight)

I do not know when it became popular, but my guess is ex military under stood (post ww2) what a 1/2 ton rated truck could do and what a larger ton rated truck was capable of, most likely more of a selling point,

I have a old 6X6 2 1/2 ton truck, the cross country rating is 5000 pounds but the highway rating is about 10,000.

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but the best way is to go off of the GVW tag


even tho the ton rating is still used going by truck classifications probably more accurate, today


Truck classification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Guide to Truck Classes: Light, Medium and Heavy Duty - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com
http://www.wrcog.cog.ca.us/downloads/050205 Truck Type Appendix.pdf

Deuce and half... Nice! :thumbsup:

 

[chew]

Not sure what printed material you are referencing but the printed yellow sticker on the door specifically says payload capacity is without passengers. You must subtract passengers from the number given.

Sorry I was looking at "Cargo Weight Rating" not "Payload" I'll read more closely next next time.

 

[CJONE]

If you get into a wreck, the insurance companys might take issue with you being overloaded. The RV world had the same issues of being over weight with just people in them as the OEMs where building way over weight.

So true, I put the insurance companies in the same spot as lawyers. No common sence and all about the $$$. Funny a 1/2 ton rated at 11k towing is legal with no trailer brakes pulling a fifthwheel but me with my gooseneck at 16k with everything functioning and safe but 3k over the manufactures RECOMMENDED tow rating is illegal. Welcome to stupidity at it's finest. Thats why the gooseneck is gone. I'll tow with my tags from now on, draws less attention. CJ

 

[flusher]

Hello ev1 !
Just a quick question about truck payloads...
When looking at truck specs...does the payload given includes the passenger + the cargo....or applies just to cargo.
I'm shopping for a new truck, and this will determine if I go 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton.
I don't trust sales person word on that issue :confused3:
Thanks for the info, and...great site !:thumbsup:
BLACK

Once you zero in on a truck to purchase, get the dealer/seller to fill the tank 3/4 full. Get in and drive it to the nearest truck scales. Pay the $10 or whatever and get it weighed- front axle on the scale, then both axles on the scale and then the rear axle on the scale. This will give you the "curb" weight as well as the weight on the axles. Subtract the measured curb weight (weight on both axles) from the GVWR to get the payload capability.

 

[jejeosborne]

Once you zero in on a truck to purchase, get the dealer/seller to fill the tank 3/4 full. Get in and drive it to the nearest truck scales. Pay the $10 or whatever and get it weighed- front axle on the scale, then both axles on the scale and then the rear axle on the scale. This will give you the "curb" weight as well as the weight on the axles. Subtract the measured curb weight (weight on both axles) from the GVWR to get the payload capability.

Why 3/4 full? Who wants to estimate how much the other 1/4 tank weighs?

 

[Diamondpilot]

Why 3/4 full? Who wants to estimate how much the other 1/4 tank weighs?

I always do 3/4 full because I never let my truck go below 1/4 tank when towing. So that is right in the middle.

Say you have a 30 gallon tank. Each 1/4 is 7.5 gallons @ 6# per gallon or 45#. So 3/4 tank is 135# and a full tank is 180#. Splitting hairs if you are worried about 45#.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

Why 3/4 full? Who wants to estimate how much the other 1/4 tank weighs?

I always do 3/4 full because I never let my truck go below 1/4 tank when towing. So that is right in the middle.

Say you have a 30 gallon tank. Each 1/4 is 7.5 gallons @ 6# per gallon or 45#. So 3/4 tank is 135# and a full tank is 180#. Splitting hairs if you are worried about 45#.

Chris