we are a dying breed

[sam5570]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

well i have read all the post so far and you know what, everyone has posted a true and important reason why we don't have the intrest of the kids. now how do we fix it ? other than cut the power off.

 

[gwdixon]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

well i have read all the post so far and you know what, everyone has posted a true and important reason why we don't have the intrest of the kids. now how do we fix it ? other than cut the power off.

>Ask yourself how the kids get the devices.
>Ask who turns on the TV to act as a babysitter.
>Ask who doesn't model expected behavior.

There are many more things to ask. The answer to all can be found in the mirror.

 

[Buppies]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

Parents have become Sam and as said previously the tv or video games become baby sitters. The new generation will have a hard time competing since they have no skills. The family as a unit is disappearing right before our eyes.

 

[sam5570]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

>Ask yourself how the kids get the devices.
>Ask who turns on the TV to act as a babysitter.
>Ask who doesn't model expected behavior.

There are many more things to ask. The answer to all can be found in the mirror.

I have no idea why you would make that comment, my daughter and i have fished sense she aws 3 years old and she's in her late 30's now. what most of the post were saying is the kids don't want to go fishing or hunting, they can find a game that resembles it and don't have to leave the couch. you know the old saying you can led a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

 

[Bird]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

We ate what we bagged.

Yep, that was the way I grew up, and it actually applied to both hunting and fishing. However, when it got to costing more to go hunting than what I could buy the meat for, I quit hunting many years ago. I did keep on fishing, but now they've finally made that too expensive, too. The price of fishing licenses went so high, it used to be free for old folks, but not now (unless you were born before 1931), the boat launching ramps used to be free, but no longer, and even if you fish from the bank, they'll charge you admission to even get close to the water.

 

[ultrarunner]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

My all time favorite thing to do as a kid was to take the old 35 hp outboard out on Lake Tahoe.

The ramp was free and for a couple of bucks I could fill the 6 gallon day cruiser tank.

Last time I went to Tahoe with a boat it cost $120 for the afternoon... not including fuel... just ramp, marina and inspection fees.

I inherited the old 35 Evinrude with so many great memories... can't use it anywhere we did as a child... two strokes are banned and have been for years.

 

[Bird]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

Yep, my Dad had a 35 hp Evinrude on a Texas Maid Falcon that I used on Lavon, Lewisville, and Texoma lakes with no fees to pay; just had to buy the gas. Dad later traded that rig for a Texas Maid Fiesta a 30 hp Evinrude; bigger boat, but slightly smaller engine.

 

[schweizer]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

Ultrarunner: only in California. I have a 2 stroke jetski I can run just fine here in Oregon.

Re: fishing licenses: I wanted to go fishing 2 days last month in the Marble Mtn Wilderness in Northern Cal, just over the border from us. The license was pretty darned expensive for an "out-of-stater". Same thing when we went salmon fishing in the ocean out of Eureka, CA, instead of Brookings, OR. More people might fish if it didn't cost so much.

Since this thread started out about kids not interested in fishing, my 6 y/o girl is dying to get a pink fishing pole so I can take her fishing. Last week, she even made herself a rudimentary pole from a stick, tied some string to it and fastened a "hook" out of wire to the end ("because fish like shiny things"). She made me ride bikes with her down to the creek so she could drop her hook in the water.... Precious.

 

[tommcafee]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

Started taking my 2.5 yr old daughter fishing this summer at the cottage. Canoeing as well. This winter the back yard rink goes in and she learns to skate. She will be 3 this week. She can learn to shoot in a few more years. She loves going with dad to the cottage, and helping at the farm doing horse chores. Sure wouldn't want her growing up in the "city".

 

[300UGUY]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

A lot of people engage in outdoor sports and activities other than hunting and fishing. Since the 1960's things like rock climbing, mountain biking, hiking, bird watching, wildlife photography, snowmobiles, ATV's, para-sailing/hang gliding, snowboarding and alpine skiing have all become huge businesses.

People do get out, and spend a lot of money, just for different pursuits. It is a value judgement to say one's hunting trip is better than someone else's skiing trip.

If the same percentage of a now larger population pursued hunting and fishing as in earlier times, it would drive the participation costs very high. The supply of lands available for that is shrinking. From that perspective, the remaining avid hunters and fishermen ought not to look a gift horse in the mouth. :laughing:

Deciding who pays what for their outdoor recreation is the challenge. In most states, hunting and fishing carries too much of the financial burden of maintaining the wildlife that many others enjoy the use of.

Doing away with regulations would result in a return to the days when wildlife game was all but gone before regulations. For example, I think we would find bear carcasses here in Maine with their paws and bile glands removed because those are worth a lot in the black market trade. There would be no trout left in Maine lakes and rivers were it not for the state hatcheries restocking them every year. Who supports the hatchery and the cost of policing limits, seasons and baits, if fees and regulations are eliminated?

Even at the currently reduced hunting and fishing demand, the natural supply is over-used in many cases.

I think you got it right - the culture has changed. I just hadn't thought of it. A lot of sports didn't exist 50 years ago. And if the fees and regs were done away with, it would only take a year or 2 to pretty much wipe out most wildlife.