F350 vs competition

   / F350 vs competition #112  
How long has ford used the same frame and continued to increase the ratings. I have a 2011 250 a 2008 f 350 and a 2011 F450. If the ratings go up for 2015 with the same frame and suspension I call bs because I can't haul that with my older models. Because ford either under rated the old ones or is over rating the new ones. And don't say it's engine or torque converter related because the 450 I have has a v10 in it and if it'll haul that weight in a 450 frame it can haul it in a 350 frame.

Well, Ford started with the frame in '99 (I will use model years and not calendar years). It was updated significantly in '05 (added coil spring front end that year), '08, '11, and I'm presuming, in '15. What you have doesn't make a hill of beans as to the rating for the '15 Super Duty. Why is it so hard to grasp that Ford makes minor frame modifications to get a few hundred (or thousand) extra lbs. in towing capacity. They added a cross member one year to gain a couple thousand extra lbs. of capacity. Maybe they had a safety margin of 20% in '11 and they feel comfortable backing down to a safety margin of 10% for '15? I don't know. The F450 is getting 19.5" wheels back again for '15 as well.

But, if you feel your truck can handle it, by all means, haul it. Just don't expect anyone to feel sorry for you if you tear it up.
 
   / F350 vs competition #113  
Do the doors from a '99 still fit?

Yup.

You know, that's my one real beef with the SD. Update the body already! Outside of the front clip and the tailgate, the body has been the same for nearly 16 years! The frame, on the other hand, has evolved significantly. I can't wait to see what the next gen SD has in store. I'm hearing complete redesign for the '16 model year.
 
   / F350 vs competition #114  
Good comments on here about final drive ratio's...
I can tell you from experience that I like my current 4.10's in my F350...
In overdrive she is pulling 2000 RPM @ 62 MPH...
A comfortable speed with my camper...
My previous 92 F250 with a whopping 185 HP and 3.55 rear end was a towing nightmare...
Never could pull in overdrive and had to keep my foot to the floor all the time...
With my programmer running @ 330 HP towing HP is a non issue...
The newer trucks have more horsepower than my juiced 7.3...
But I can pull my 10000# camper up Black Mountain @ 55 MPH is good enough for me...
That is good enough for me...
Plus she is paid for...
 
   / F350 vs competition
  • Thread Starter
#115  
I wonder what most of the Fords roll out the line with? Like has been said by others, the test was stacked and Ford knew it.

SRW all have 3.73 with diesel. 4.10 and 4.30 are available with gas only.

Dually all come stanard with 4.10 and 4.30 option.

Chris
 
   / F350 vs competition #117  
I just went through the build price configured like my current 03...
Comes out to a tad under 60K...
Think I'll keep my old truck...
 
   / F350 vs competition #118  
I just went through the build price configured like my current 03...
Comes out to a tad under 60K...
Think I'll keep my old truck...

With rebates and discounts, probably looking at < $50k out the door. But still, that's a lot of coin for a truck! It doesn't help that it's close to $9k just for the diesel! I'm looking for an EcoBoost 5.0 in the '16 F250. Maybe I can buy a new truck in '18...
 
   / F350 vs competition #119  
   / F350 vs competition #120  
These are not sports cars ,they keep drag racing them with big trailers....enough already! They all have as much power as the average semi had 20 years ago,the are all more than capable..Ford isn't being honest about getting the best each manufacturer has because the dodge is available with 4.88s and 37500 gcwr. Personally I'm still afraid of all of them since they out DPF on them in 07.....they add so much heat to the engine between the extra fuel burnt in the DPF and the egr adding heat these engines will never last like the older versions...
 

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