F350 vs competition

   / F350 vs competition #141  
Ha, good point. Except that bumper step is only a few inches lower than the tailgate anyway, so how much good is it really? All these tests need to be filtered before buying. Ford came out with this video just in time to deflect attention from the heavy duty long hauler tests that came out today, showing Ram beating the 2013 Ford F450 in several categories. Yep, the new model Ram beats the old model Ford. Chevy doesn't build one to compete in that heavyweight battle. In less than a year the Ford 2015 will be out and will leap over the Ram again. Maybe by then, GM will have a model to be include in the test too. If you want a new HD truck, there are a lot of difficult decisions to make.

The GM truck very handily out pulled and braked the Ford in its current iteration at a lesser trailer weight.

The Ram was better at basically everything, despite being a 'lesser' truck.

The GM trucks have consistently pulled better than the new Ford engine, with less rated power. The Ram now pulls, brakes and handles better than the 1.5t Ford. All this while the GM and Ram trucks have engine designs that are between 12 and 30 yrs old. The Ford engine is the newest design by far is totally outclassed at altitude. It also has comparatively terrible exhaust brake setup.

New doesn't mean better.
 
   / F350 vs competition #142  
The GM truck very handily out pulled and braked the Ford in its current iteration at a lesser trailer weight.

The Ram was better at basically everything, despite being a 'lesser' truck.

The GM trucks have consistently pulled better than the new Ford engine, with less rated power. The Ram now pulls, brakes and handles better than the 1.5t Ford. All this while the GM and Ram trucks have engine designs that are between 12 and 30 yrs old. The Ford engine is the newest design by far is totally outclassed at altitude. It also has comparatively terrible exhaust brake setup.

New doesn't mean better.
This is the test I was referring to. PickupTrucks.com - Special Reports
GM didn't make the cut to be in this one. Only the top two trucks were tested.
 
   / F350 vs competition #143  
Yes I understand that.

The test a couple of years ago is where they ran the GM vs the Ford. Did it with a lesser trailer weight.

The results were more one sided than the Ram vs the F-450.
 
   / F350 vs competition #144  
Yes I understand that.

The test a couple of years ago is where they ran the GM vs the Ford. Did it with a lesser trailer weight.

The results were more one sided than the Ram vs the F-450.
Ok, got it. And back to what I said earlier, if you're in the market for a new HD truck, there are a lot of difficult decisions to make. All 3 make trucks that excel in certain areas.
 
   / F350 vs competition #145  
The GM truck very handily out pulled and braked the Ford in its current iteration at a lesser trailer weight.
Then why not put the same weight on both and see who outpulls who?
If they aren't pulling the same weight, what good is a "head to head" test?

Aaron Z
 
   / F350 vs competition #146  
Then why not put the same weight on both and see who outpulls who?
If they aren't pulling the same weight, what good is a "head to head" test?

Aaron Z

I think he meant the weight was less than this time. Both the GM and Ford had the same weight, but it was less than this test.

The 6.7 Ford PowerStroke has some inefficiencies at altitude along with exhaust braking that is behind the other two. Until the 2015 model year (going into production in early 2014). Ford is fixing these issues with the '15 (which is shown by the video at the beginning of this thread).
 
   / F350 vs competition #147  
Then why not put the same weight on both and see who outpulls who? If they aren't pulling the same weight, what good is a "head to head" test? Aaron Z

They did pull the same weight. Just less than the recent linked test.
 
   / F350 vs competition #150  
5yr old? That's the way they are right now! Minus the Ram that wasn't included.

Sure beats comparing trucks that not only haven't come out, but we have no specs on and are tested by a biased manufacturer.
 

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