we are a dying breed

[Jstpssng]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

Its interesting that Maine doesn't allow hunting on Sundays. Here in Indiana, you can hunt on Sunday, but you can't buy alcohol (except in a restaurant with a meal or a private club) on Sunday. Can you buy alcohol on Sunday in Maine? Just curious.

You can now, although I believe there are a few towns where that isn't the case.

It's just been within the last 15 years that Sunday shopping was allowed in larger retail stores; and it's still not allowed on certain holidays. (Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter)

As I've said before though the current no Sunday hunting law is more at the wish of landowners and other nonhunters than for religious reasons, although I'm sure that wasn't always the case. I've heard it said "one day of the weekend for hunters... the other day for everyone else."
This goes with our tradition of public use of private lands.

 

[wngsprd]

Not sure about Maine, but in Virginia there is no Sunday hunting, either. You can buy beer and wine on Sunday in retail/grocery/convenience stores. Liquor is sold only in State ABC stores, most of which are open Sunday afternoons.

 

[mx842]

Sign of the times. Little joey goes to kinder garden and right away he is taught that the evil gun is bad so don't even draw one on a piece of paper or you will be kicked out. The liberal teachers union and PC crowd have taken over the role of raising America's kids because long ago they figured out that to control America the best way to do it is through the young minds they are supposed to teach. It seems to be working quite well for them at this point in time and sadly may be already too late to turn it around.

I have seen a lot of changes since I was a kid. Some of the changes were good and made life easier.....flush toilets with no splinters or spiders hiding under the seat for one. LOL Others like refrigeration, AC, and telephones that you don't have to share with 10 or 12 other families were nice too. But the changes that have taken us from being self sufficient with regard to taking care of ourselves and our families; to the idea that the government is the only answer to all our life's problems where more and more people don't even bother to try to work for a living anymore. With the politicians so freely handing out computers, cell phones, big screen TV's, food stamps, welfare, free healthcare and just about anything some politician thinks they need to hand out to get someone's vote. Who the **** in their right mind would teach their kids to go fishing or hunting in the cold wet air? Or work even, when they can teach them to sit on their fat lazy azzes in their nice warm gubment provided house and search the internet on their gubment provided computer and find more gubment web sites that they can cash in on more free gubment stuff.

 

[rsallen]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

$42 in Maine:
Combination Hunting and Fishing License: A combination hunting and fishing license permits persons 16 years of age or older to fish in inland waters and permits hunting of all legal big game and small game with a firearm, muzzleloader, or bow and arrow. An archery license is required to hunt during the archery and expanded archery seasons on deer, and during the fall turkey hunting season.

$200:
The Superpack license permits a person to hunt and fish for all legal game and fish species subject to all the laws covering these activities. The Superpack license includes fishing, hunting, archery, as well as muzzleload, migratory waterfowl, pheasant, spring/fall turkey, including additional spring turkey, bear, crossbow, coyote night hunt, three expanded archery antlerless deer permits (does not include the expanded archery antlered (buck) deer permit), one free chance in the moose lottery, and entry into a special category in the annual any-deer permit lottery.

$25:
Season Fishing License: A season fishing license is required for residents, nonresidents, and aliens 16 years of age or older to fish in the inland waters of Maine.
Note: A Maine resident under 16 years of age may fish without a fishing license.

I don't think people are being priced-out of hunting here. $42 buys year-round hunting and fishing.

Not only that but the last I knew we could (residents) could fish salt water (and tidal) with no lic. at any time of year.

 

[rsallen]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

You can now, although I believe there are a few towns where that isn't the case.

It's just been within the last 15 years that Sunday shopping was allowed in larger retail stores; and it's still not allowed on certain holidays. (Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter)

As I've said before though the current no Sunday hunting law is more at the wish of landowners and other nonhunters than for religious reasons, although I'm sure that wasn't always the case. I've heard it said "one day of the weekend for hunters... the other day for everyone else."
This goes with our tradition of public use of private lands.

Yeah, public use of private lands. I'm sure it's just a few that is spoiling it for the many that care, but from my point of view I'm tired of tearing down tree stands that are not identified per regs. I'm tired of people just walking on to my property treating it as they're own it (no actually they don't treat as such because they don't have to repair or maintain it).
When I grew up I was taught if you want to use someone else's land you asked first and then you respected and took care to leave a small foot print.
Today I guess I pay for it so everyone else can own it.

 

[sam5570]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

Yeah, public use of private lands. I'm sure it's just a few that is spoiling it for the many that care, but from my point of view I'm tired of tearing down tree stands that are not identified per regs. I'm tired of people just walking on to my property treating it as they're own it (no actually they don't treat as such because they don't have to repair or maintain it).
When I grew up I was taught if you want to use someone else's land you asked first and then you respected and took care to leave a small foot print.
Today I guess I pay for it so everyone else can own it.

I been down this road before. you know the crazy thing that is hard to understand is, back in the day our neighbors and us were all close friends. we never posted our property for many years all the neighbors hunted on us but they had respect and didn't come close to where we were hunting and everything worked out great. now that there dead and gone there kid's think they can do as they da***** please on our property. we ended up taking one of them to court for hunting on posted property, sense that time they have told the cops we were growing dope on our land so here comes the helicopter. and now they don't like us because we won't let them hunt. we went to these people long time back and tried to be reasonable and explain to them you can't hunt in the same area we or hunting in they would say they understood, hunting season comes along and here they come 50 yards from our stands. so if you intend to have a place to hunt be ready to pi*** people off because there something about no that they don't understand.

 

[Denwa]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

Here's another take on the issue. I'm officially old. Medicare and all that. A few year back, at least, I got inspired to start fishing again as I had in my yout. I bought a take down fly fishing outfit at the local sporting goods store with dreams of camping and fishing with my motorcycle. THEN, I got a copy of the WA state game pamphlet and started reading up on the seasons in the areas I was thinking of riding to and rolling out a line.
To my dismay, I read that it was not recommended that a human consume more than one or two fish a month from this and many other places in my state due to heavy metal contamination! Now, I like a touch of mercury as much as the next guy/person (any gals reading this?) but, but I'm more of a catch and fillet person than a one inspired by catch and release. So, bottom line, I gave up on the entire concept of getting a WA state freshwater fishing license and getting back into the game.
Too bad. As a kid I was really into it and still have a bunch of gear, including a tackle box and lures I inherited from my grandad. I was ready to undie the breed, but preferring to delay my terminal eventuality as long as possible, and retain my faculties for the same I have decided that fresh water fishing in WA at least will have to go on the "very long wait" list. Unfortunately, the salt water fishing is in about the same boat. Not much left out there compared to 20/30 years ago, and some of what you can catch is covered with tumors.
It could be depressing if you let it get that way. OTOH, as one gets "older" I suppose one could just say the heck with it, and fish and eat all you wish....
Another option is that I have very recently purchased a good sized 5th wheel and might find better prospects further afield. Say in ID or MT or ???. In any event, I'll keep thinking about dropping a line and having some fresh fillets and fried eggs for breakfast.

Regards,
Dennis de NW

 

[buickanddeere]

Same reason tractor collecting and collection of pre 1960's vehicles is dying out. Kids raised by single Mothers in town and cities don't take their boys out hunting fishing or working in the shop.
Competition for time is also reducing the ranks of volunteer and service groups. Such as Lions, Rotary, Kinsmen, Masons, Orangemen, Odd Fellows etc.

 

[ultrarunner]

When I joined the Model A Ford Club in 1974 I was the youngest member in my chapter... nearly 40 years later I am still the youngest member.

Cars are seen mostly as throw-aways...

 

[gwdixon]

To Denwa:

When you were younger, and ate the fish, there was likely as much, or more, contaminated water.

With the advent of environmentalists there has been much more research and awareness of what is in the water. The result is that most of the pollutants have been reduced or eliminated. Anything left over is minor. However, you know the government, if something is even remotely possible the nanny signs pop up all over the place. Pregnant women are the most vulnerable...well, their unborn babies.

If you would research the deaths/poisonings/disabilities from the waters you consider fishing I'd wager it was none.

In Northern CA we have the same mercury warnings for a large local lake. The Sacramento Delta drains the whole Sacramento Valley and all of the cities that line the rivers. The Delta collects all the ag chemicals and city offal. There is no shortage of fishing at either place and, to my knowledge, nobody has died. I assure you, it would be headlines in all the papers if something like that happened.

Bottom line...go enjoy fishing.