40x60 Farm Shop Build

[ch47dpilot]

I'm looking at a complete hydraulic lift: 2 Post Lifts | SL 10,000 BP 10,000 LB. Two Post Vehicle / Automotive / Truck / Car Garage Lift (Base Plate / Open Top) It has both symmetric and asymmetric arms. If you look at their site they give you the estimate floor space needed (12' x 24'). Also calls for 6" concrete

 

[Verticaltrx]

After some thought on what was posted here and some measuring of equipment, etc, I've come up with another possible plan. This one would provide a little more machinery storage area and still have a nice sized shop. I've left out the detail of the shop organization, but it would be about the same as the other. I'd probably also leave out the 2-post lift, and just install a single beam to run my chain-fall on. This second design would also be more economy minded, which is welcome since I'm also restoring a house, refurbishing a barn, building fences, etc right now all at the same time (everything that comes with buying an old farm)

In this new plan the chain-fall would run on a 40' long beam which would be supported on both ends atop a steel post bolted to the floor. Capacity would be 2000lbs. How big of a beam would I need to support 2000lbs at mid-point?

Any other thoughts on the new layout?

 

[rambler]

If your plan is to work in the shop a lot, don't let my - or other's - ramblings discourage your nice big shop portion. Your rational for the bigger shop, smaller storage area made good sense - it's no fun to work in a too-crowded shop either.

The pros don't like to take liability for steel building for free, so it is real hard to nail down beam strengths. They prefer to refer you to an engineer for a price to design what you need.

I'd suggest 40 feet is very long, and would take a lot of beam, perhaps with an arch over it to support a ton in the middle of the 40 feet. But I really don't know much at all about it, and I'd sure like one too.

--->Paul

 

[Verticaltrx]

Update: A year and a half later I'm finally working on this project. :confused2:


It turns out the building is only going to be 40'x48', I originally miscalculated how many trusses, etc there were. That said, the shop and equipment storage area are both only going to be 24x40, which is kind of small. As my needs for a larger shop develop, I might just pour the other half with concrete, have the full building be the shop, and build another shed for equipment. Honestly, a 60' long building would have been pushing it size wise for the site anyways.

First order of business was tearing down the old shed. I salvaged all the tin and most of the wood and plan to use the materials to build a little three sided shed at another farm. It took a while since I was salvaging all the materials, but after a couple days I got it down.

 

[Verticaltrx]

The site was already mostly level from an old building that came down years ago.... Basically all I have to do for site work is cut the bank back a little behind the building, strip off the sod and do some minor leveling. Already got started on that, more on that later.

HA! Hundreds of yards of dirt later and about 22hrs on the skid steer I'm almost done with the grading.

After I got started moving dirt and really laid out the footprint of the building, the area needing to be excavated kept getting larger and larger. Glad I got the skid steer last spring, I don't think the B3200 would have been up to this task.

 

[Verticaltrx]

I'm finally done excavating and have been spreading top soil and doing some seeding. The next pics are of me enlarging the area in front of the shop, eventually I'll cut this back even more and build a retaining wall/loading dock.

The 1845C doing what it was made for:

 

[Verticaltrx]

Last pic for now is of a couple of the trusses setup with the lower purlins. We set them up to get the spacings for the concrete piers. One of my friends who is a surveyor and has CAD capabilities helped me with the measurements and drew up the plans for the pier locations.

 

[bubbacuse77]

Good stuff, keep us posted

 

[Verticaltrx]

Question:

I'm going to drill the holes for the piers with my post hole digger and make a small form for each one for the above ground portion. Would I be better off with a 12" dia pier or a 9" one? They will be about 42-48" deep and will be on undisturbed ground (not fill). The portion above ground will be about 9" square.

 

[EddieWalker]

I would think the bigger pier, the better.

Looks like with a little more seat time, it wouldn't be too hard to make the pad bigger. Why don't you get or make more trusses to make the building as large as you want it? Seems it would be a lot cheaper to spend the money now to make it a little bigger then to build another building.

Eddie