found this at FF EPA law suit against wood burners

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One of the other sites I frequent posted this article about 7 states filing lawsuit to force EPA to crack down on wood burning home heating.
I would suggest anyone living in those states send emails to your reps. and governors tell them what for!!!

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Just another move to protect their own jobs.
 
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They are out of control and need to be disbanded, defunded, and dissolved!!
 
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They are out of control and need to be disbanded, defunded, and dissolved!!
Yeah, because I sure don't want anyone watching out for ground water pollution, industrial dumping, etc...
 
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There was a thing on the news the other day about how the State of VT is considering removing ownership of stocks in companies like Exxon to keep their influence out of state politics.
The EPA does not enough in the areas they should be rabid and too much on somethings that are overkill when it comes to the rest of us.
Some balance would be a good outcome.
 
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Yeah, because I sure don't want anyone watching out for ground water pollution, industrial dumping, etc...

Yes, wouldn't it be novel if that were the case, because the companies that do most of that just give a kickback and the issue goes away when its the wood burners and small timers that get stuck with these arrogant laws.

These out of control gov agencies like the FDA and EPA need to be kept in check. By the people. Because they are for the people not just the elite who say "just because I don't have or need one NOBODY DOES"


Like its a surprise what states these lawsuits came from. HO-RAY sue happy socialists!!!!!!!!!!:mur:
 
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Wait... the EPA is getting sued because some people say they dont do enough and some of you are spouting that its the EPA fault and they are over reaching?? In case you missed it, the EPA is ON YOUR SIDE in this...

Really?
 
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I read the link- and the stove we bought 5 years ago meets the specs listed under (2.2 grams per hour) and if i read it right they want to bring the particulates to under 8 grams per hour.

Seems some of the western states have had the cleaner burning stove laws for many years...

I agree that they should go after the big multi national corporations FIRST before hounding individuals or mom and pop small companies... But i don't think Clean air is a bad thing...
 
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Yes, wouldn't it be novel if that were the case, because the companies that do most of that just give a kickback and the issue goes away when its the wood burners and small timers that get stuck with these arrogant laws.

These out of control gov agencies like the FDA and EPA need to be kept in check. By the people. Because they are for the people not just the elite who say "just because I don't have or need one NOBODY DOES"


Like its a surprise what states these lawsuits came from. HO-RAY sue happy socialists!!!!!!!!!!:mur:

Let's put this in perspective...this suit is about making EPA revise the emission standards applied to wood boilers used for heating. It would only apply to NEW UNITS. It would not affect anyone using an existing boiler, unless they intended to rebuild it or replace it. There is nothing unusual or arbitrary about such a rulemaking; in fact, this has been going on for years and applies to myriad of sources from refineries to feed grinding. EPA has done a lot of good for the environment; but since they are a government agency, they can be manipulated for political purposes.
 
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Just wondering out loud here, how many of you people old enough to remember back to say 1965 when Chet & David would report on a river ran through Cincinnati, Ohio being on fire again or a story about a coal mine fire under a river in Pennsylvania where they were pushing old railroad cars into in hope of plugging up the hole in the river bottom?

I dang forsure am, old enough to remember Federal trucks that belched black smoke so thick you spaced yourself a quarter mile back from it so the smoke didn't make you puke. I even made a living before the OSHA, or EPA came along.

I tell you one and all that things have got a whole lot cleaner, both air and water, and places of work have got much safer too, and both them are good things. Problem is in my mind most people doing a lot of jumping up and down about clean got no memory of what dirty was. I drove plenty of heavy trucks over the years, did my best to not make smoke showing off, and I'll tell you straight up the trucks being made in 2013 have gone past insane with the pollution stuff. Something just flat ridiculous when a truck that is 99% smoke free has to carry along a box the size of my new icebox to make that truck 99,1% smoke free, and that there contraption burns more fuel to regenerate itself. Talked to a fellow with JB Hunt, pretty big fleet there, and he tells me they need to own 1.3 trucks just to keep moving what one truck should, because of all the breakdowns.

NO, I ain't in favor of going back to 1960, but lets at least look at where we were, where we were in 2000, and where we are today before the dang fool government kids get to writing any more regulations on things they got no idea about beyond what some professor told them. Guarantee you that professor never operated a Diesel unless it was in a fancy lab, and he sure never shifted 18 gears.

There's a whole lot of jobs of work leaving the United States because of regulations that don't accomplish spit.
 

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