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   / Job review... #11  
I know it's only 6 month's but it's also 3 month's after they said I would get a review. I took them at their word and guess that was a mistake?
You are a lot like me!;) When I say I'm going to do something I bust a gut trying to do it. But guess what, most people aren't like that:confused3:. Give it some time, it's way to early to draw a line in the sand. Your boss just might step over that line. Then what will you do?
 
   / Job review... #12  
Where I work we are "supposed" to get 6 month reviews. In 7 years I have gotten 3... the same the other guys. I don't fret too much because I know I am not doing any worse than anyone else in my department. The manager will decide that he is doing reviews and do everyone in the same week. I have also been through 3 managers (really 4 but one of them came back for a second term) in those 7 years.
 
   / Job review... #13  
Where I work we are "supposed" to get 6 month reviews. In 7 years I have gotten 3... the same the other guys. I don't fret too much because I know I am not doing any worse than anyone else in my department. The manager will decide that he is doing reviews and do everyone in the same week. I have also been through 3 managers (really 4 but one of them came back for a second term) in those 7 years.

In many places, it ends up being No News is Good News..... if there is a Problem, then you Get Yelled At, otherwise not much gets Reviewed.

If an employee is perfoming well, many companies don't want to document this.... just the famous olde Because It's Cheaper That Way motivation at play.

Negotiating pay plans is usually a PITA, mostly because the companies want it that way.

Rgds, D.
 
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I'm not saying I would go in and demand an immediate raise. I would like to know how the company/my boss thinks I'm doing though. It doesn't really matter how I think I'm doing because it's not up to me to decide. I think I'm in a pretty good position though because my supervisor and a few others are already thinking there could be a big problem with not having enough knowledgeable people at the counter for the new location. The sales manager will be the interim supervisor for the counter but he's always in and out with no set schedule. They already lost a really good employee because he didn't have much faith in the upper management. I think a big part of the problem is they have no set policies on most things. Too many people have different ways of doing things or telling you how to do things and you don't know who to listen to. It can be frustrating at times.
 
   / Job review... #15  
I would go to my manager and sell myself on the new job and bring up your ideas about the underserved markets around you. Also have some ideas about doing the set-up for such a thing, because they may not have the passion for it that you do. Don't mention salary other than maybe point out that you seem to be in the middle of the advertised range. If you get the job and/or they implement the demo idea, then you could make a claim for more pay. As a manager, I can tell you that doing rweviews is a PITA and we only do it when somebody puts a gun to our head.
 
   / Job review... #16  
When I worked in the trade, I always figured I was doing a good job if nobody was screaming at me. Or handing me two paychecks in the middle of the week. Or just one paycheck at the end of shift Friday night. When I went into management I never had a job review. Only thing that was even close is if there was a problem on the job. One or more of the owners of the company would come on site to figure out what was going wrong. That was about the only time we got any feed back from the main office, or if we didn't get a bonus at the end of the year. If the job / jobs you were on made money hand over fist, and you didn't get a bonus, guess what? Somebody somewhere thought you did a bad job.
 
   / Job review... #17  
I would agree with the posts above that recommend talking with your boss. Why wouldn't you? Its your life your talking about here. Have a talk about your plans, desires, career, the company, and what their plans are for you. Why wouldn't you want to go in and find out what their plans are for you? You certainly need to have a pow-wow before you get all mad and cant talk to them without getting madder. Talk to them now. Your only a door mat if you chose to be.
 
   / Job review... #18  
When I worked in the trade, I always figured I was doing a good job if nobody was screaming at me. Or handing me two paychecks in the middle of the week. Or just one paycheck at the end of shift Friday night. When I went into management I never had a job review. Only thing that was even close is if there was a problem on the job. One or more of the owners of the company would come on site to figure out what was going wrong. That was about the only time we got any feed back from the main office, or if we didn't get a bonus at the end of the year. If the job / jobs you were on made money hand over fist, and you didn't get a bonus, guess what? Somebody somewhere thought you did a bad job.

Yes, your last sentence is a possible correct conclusion.

Also possible - the owner of the business is just too greedy or short-sighted to bother sharing the wealth with the people that made it happen.

Many organizations are quick to cry poor when things are slow, and expect to get concessions from employees under these conditions. Only a few of those same companies will share the wealth on the upside. Nature of the game.

From a (personal) business standpoint - when your local economy is really strong, AND your company sees enough future business coming in to expand, THEN you are in good place to be making a pitch for more money. IE. it doesn't get much better than that, business wise. Of course, I'm assuming your performance as an employee is strong in all key areas.

Making sense out of the chaos is a big part of the battle, esp. in small companies. Lacking structure from management, I view this as an ongoing discussion. If I present a detailed summary of what I've accomplished to a manager, AND receive no negative feedback, AND a significant amount of time passes with no raise, WHILE the company continues to expand and make money - well, to me, that is a pretty significant data-point telling me to move on.

Many small businesses don't make money, and are often badly managed. For the few that do make money, it is often incumbent on the employee to fight for a fair salary.

Also in business, there is a general assumption that Sales people are obsessed and extremely aggressive about money. Right or wrong, that means business owners may expect to be chased by Sales people for raises more so than by other classes of employees. Again, just part of the game.

Rgds, D.
 
   / Job review... #19  
If management is busy focusing on expansion and recruitment efforts, they probably are not going to take time out to think about retention. The company probably has their budgeting strecthed out with all their curent payroll as an almost fixed number. If you want feedback from someone you are likely not going to get it without asking.

It would be better for you to approach your boss and ask for some feedback rather than stew on it for the next year and devlop suspicions of people getting hired in at a higher rate of pay. Talk to your boss, tell him you would like some feedback, and ask if the ad you saw with the salary range was for your company. If he likes you he'll get the hint. If he blows you off and says that it is not their ad then you better send a resume.
 
   / Job review... #20  
3930dave, our cost reports came out on Tuesday afternoon, if you had a cost code in the toilet, by Thursday morning there would be one of the owners on your job site wanting to hear your side of the story.:eek: We and everybody in the company management new where a job was financially.
 

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