Have you ever stolen powr?

[slowzuki]

They would have a tough time up here with a case against electric cars, many buildings have block heater plugins for people to freely use that are about 1500 watts.

Some companies a bit north of here have entire parking lots with plugins at each spot for block heaters.

I guess I've plugged in a phone or computer charger lots of places, hospitals, libraries, schools, restaurants, etc. Have plugged in razors at various locations to shave, wasn't any signs warning not to use power.

The only places I've seen power use very spelled out in detail is in construction contracts - mostly due to nuisance tripping of breakers affecting other occupants.

 

[tallyho8]

I wonder if you're stealing power if you go into a public restroom and use the blow dryer to warm your frozen hands instead of just to dry them?

 

[slowzuki]

Or use a solar powered calculator inside without permission?

I wonder if you're stealing power if you go into a public restroom and use the blow dryer to warm your frozen hands instead of just to dry them?

 

[bandaidmd]

I know the dyed fuel discussion is a little off topic but I had my fuel checked on my 14' delivery truck in the late 90's at the weigh station on the Va/ Md border, so this has been going on for a long time. When i asked why he was checking such a small truck he commented that that's where he found the bulk of violators.

 

[bandaidmd]

There was a story at least a year ago of a Judge that was plugging in his car at the courthouse, after much uproar it turns out he was actually reimbursing the county for it use.
Theres going to be more and more of this sort of discussion as time passes and the plug in's get more popular.
I don't think of it as stealing when at a airport or other location that provides outlets at kiosks for free and I happen to find a outlet that's along a wall, same goes for places up north where they have outlets at parking spots.
I'm surely not going to carry around a 100' cord and drag it behind someones business to steal there electric.

 

[dmccarty]

Exactly.. the fuel was dyed and prolly mixed with his own fuel and thus illegal for road use. You own, homemade, biofuel is NOT illegal for road use.

That may or may not be true depending on the state. In NC, it is no longer illegal, but it once was and I think it should be. Someone running biofuel on the roads and the electric power from the grid needs to pay for the roads and pay the same taxes I pay. In the case I mentioned, I don't think the guy was running off road fuel, he just had bumper stickers and a talkative mouth.

Later,
Dan

 

[dmccarty]

If a business or organization is providing Wi Fi, I don't think they care if someone plugs in a device to recharge. The obviously are providing a service to the customers. One of the schools my kids go to wants the students to use laptops so they have WiFi and they certainly know the kids will have to plug the computers into the wall outlets. Airports and hospitals are providing WiFi for their customers and the price of any power use by the customers will be passed on eventually. This guy was not plugging in a PC but a car. He got caught after a few minutes. According to him. How much power WOULD he have taken if someone had not called it in? I think he has done this before based on his own words. The reporter should have asked him how many times he has done this and where? I would bet he has done it more than once.

Flip this around a bit. What if this guy was your neighbor and you came home to see that he had plugged his car into your power outlets to charge his car. What would you do? Would it be theft?

Later,
Dan

 

[k0ua]

If a business or organization is providing Wi Fi, I don't think they care if someone plugs in a device to recharge. The obviously are providing a service to the customers. One of the schools my kids go to wants the students to use laptops so they have WiFi and they certainly know the kids will have to plug the computers into the wall outlets. Airports and hospitals 4are providing WiFi for their customers and the price of any power use by the customers will be passed on eventually. This guy was not plugging in a PC but a car. He got caught after a few minutes. According to him. How much power WOULD he have taken if someone had not called it in? I think he has done this before based on his own words. The reporter should have asked him how many times he has done this and where? I would bet he has done it more than once.

Flip this around a bit. What if this guy was your neighbor and you came home to see that he had plugged his car into your power outlets to charge his car. What would you do? Would it be theft?

Later,
Dan

I would be pi$$y about it because charging a car is not the same as someone plugging a laptop or a drill. The car charger is about like plugging in a electric space heater, and it is a significant drain , especially over time of multiple times. So no I would not be happy if he did not ask permission first. If he asked I would say sure buddy go ahead. Unless it was for all day then I would say something like how about you leave me a buck or two? Just because the guy bought an electric car and is saving the planet, does not give him the right to freeload off others.

James K0UA

 

[dirt ditch]

I would be pi$$y about it because charging a car is not the same as someone plugging a laptop or a drill. The car charger is about like plugging in a electric space heater, and it is a significant drain , especially over time of multiple times. So no I would not be happy if he did not ask permission first. If he asked I would say sure buddy go ahead. Unless it was for all day then I would say something like how about you leave me a buck or two? Just because the guy bought an electric car and is saving the planet, does not give him the right to freeload off others. James K0UA

It does add up quickly. This is from an article in a rural cooperative magazine I get. It was about space heaters but 1500 watts is 1500 watts.

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[yelbike]

It does add up quickly. This is from an article in a rural cooperative magazine I get. It was about space heaters but 1500 watts is 1500 watts.

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If it runs 24/7. The 1500 watt heater is thermostatically controlled so is depend and on space heating load.
There seems no shortage of jerk police out there, this is probably why a lot of officers seem become jerks over time though. This guy probably deserve to come across a jerk. $0 .05 of "free" charge time will turn into a $2000 lawyer bill to get off the charges. Lesson to be learnt: 1. Choose battles wisely. 2. Battling a Leo is usually an unwise adversary choice!