Have you ever stolen powr?

[joshuabardwell]

Oh look, there's more to the story:

The report made its way to Sgt Ford's desk for a follow up investigation. He contacted the middle school and inquired of several administrative personnel whether the individual had permission to use power. He was advised no. Sgt. Ford showed a photo to the school resource officer who recognized Mr. Kamooneh. Sgt Ford was further advised that Mr. Kamooneh had previously been advised he was not allowed on the school tennis courts without permission from the school . This was apparently due to his interfering with the use of the tennis courts previously during school hours.

 

[Midniteoyl]

If you read the story, you'll see that didn't happen.

I seemed to have missed that.. But the 'no comment' is interesting.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Oh look, there's more to the story:

Where are you finding this? Link please

But, seems I am pretty close as to why this happened

 

[Daver1963]

Quote Originally Posted by Daver1963 View Post

I see this happening more and more as electric cars become more prevalent. People will think that they can plug in anywhere they want and just get away with it. However, now that they've got the publicity they obviously wanted the charges should be dropped.

Including your relatives that may get an all electric car, comes over to visit you and wants to plug in while having dinner with you. Now what are Lu going to tell your relative? No, they can't do that and will need to have their car towed home if they run out of juice on the way back? This is going to become interesting.

Need to come up with a sign...what would it say? Charge your car before coming over? This is a good one for Dear Abby...

Ain't no treehuggers in my family that would buy an electric car so I wouldn't have to worry about that.
I got one nephew that's a Bama fan, but I think he was dropped as a child.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Here ya go.. He was told NOT to use the courts w/o permission, AND, he was the taking lessons NOT his son as he says. He also did NOT confront the cop while the cop was 'in his car' as he says... The car wasnt even near the courts.

There is always more to the story

Wednesday evening, Chamblee City Manager and Police Chief Marc Johnson issued the following statement:

We received a 911 call advising that someone was plugged into the power outlet behind the middle school. The responding officer located the vehicle in the rear of the building at the kitchen loading dock up against the wall with a cord run to an outlet. The officer spent some time trying to determine whose vehicle it was. It was unlocked and he eventually began looking through the interior after verifying it did not belong to the school system.

The officer, his marked patrol vehicle and the electric vehicle were all in clear view of the tennis courts. Eventually, a man on the courts told the officer that the man playing tennis with him owned the vehicle. The officer went to the courts and interviewed the vehicle owner. The officer's initial incident report gives a good indication of how difficult and argumentative the individual was to deal with. He made no attempt to apologize or simply say oops and he wouldn't do it again. Instead he continued being argumentative, acknowledged he did not have permission and then accused the officer of having damaged his car door. The officer told him that was not true and that the vehicle and existing damage was already on his vehicles video camera from when he drove up.

Given the uncooperative attitude and accusations of damage to his vehicle, the officer chose to document the incident on an incident report. The report was listed as misdemeanor theft by taking. The officer had no way of knowing how much power had been consumed, how much it cost nor how long it had been charging.

The report made its way to Sgt Ford's desk for a follow up investigation. He contacted the middle school and inquired of several administrative personnel whether the individual had permission to use power. He was advised no. Sgt. Ford showed a photo to the school resource officer who recognized Mr. Kamooneh. Sgt Ford was further advised that Mr. Kamooneh had previously been advised he was not allowed on the school tennis courts without permission from the school . This was apparently due to his interfering with the use of the tennis courts previously during school hours.

Based upon the totality of these circumstances and without any expert advice on the amount of electricity that may have been used, Sgt Ford signed a theft warrant. The warrant was turned over to the DeKalb Sheriffs Dept for service because the individual lived in Decatur, not Chamblee. This is why he was arrested at a later time.

I am sure that Sgt. Ford was feeling defensive when he said a theft is a theft and he would do it again. Ultimately, Sgt. Ford did make the decision to pursue the theft charges, but the decision was based on Mr. Kamooneh having been advised that he was not allowed on the property without permission. Had he complied with that notice none of this would have occurred. Mr. Kamooneh's son is not a student at the middle school and he was not the one playing tennis. Mr. Kamooneh was taking lessons himself.

Electric car owner charged with stealing 5 cents worth of juice | 11alive.com

 

[troutsqueezer]

Guilty as charged. In my twenties, I couldn't afford to pay the electric bill once and the power company shut off my power. At the time, I had a few fish tanks in the house and I didn't want the fish to die from the cold. I went out to the meter, cut the green tag they put there to keep you from tampering with it, pulled the meter out, removed the plastic sleeves they had placed over the meter lugs and plugged the meter back in. I wrote down the meter reading as well. Two months later, when I had enough money I called the power company and asked them to turn on the power. I placed the sleeves back on the lugs, twisted the dials to read the same as they were when I first took it apart and replaced the green tag so that they couldn't tell it was cut unless they looked very closely.

Worked as planned. Don't regret doing it and would do it again if it was a matter of emergency, no sweat. :cool2:

 

[dirt ditch]

Technically I guess it was "stealing"..

However the MOST that should have been done was a written warning as a first offence....

Kamooneh said a Chamblee policeman was inside his car, with one foot outside.
"I wasn't sure what was going on. I asked him why he was in my car. He was very uninterested in answering my question," Kamooneh said. "I asked him at least one more time."
Kamooneh said he noticed the car was unplugged and the charger was on the ground. After providing his driver's license and asking for the officer's information, he said he was later told that his car was abandoned on public property.
According to the Chamblee police report, the police officer wrote, "I asked him why his vehicle was plugged into the power at the school. He told me that was an excepted [sic] practice and that I was making to [sic] much of it. I asked him if he has [sic] asked the Dekalb County school system if he could take the power. He told me that I did not ask if my patrol car can dirty the air -- did you? He says 'No you did not'." "

In most states a written warning can be given at the officers discretion for traffic code violations. Theft is under the criminal code where the officer has two options if during his investigation he believes a crime has been perpetrated. 1: arrest the suspect or 2: the officer writes a report then the prosecuting attorney in the jurisdiction reviews the report and makes the decision on whether or not to prosecute. If the prosecutor decides to prosecute he has a couple options on how to get the accused person into court. one is by subpoena, the other by warrant.

In this case it looks like the prosecutor thinks the guy was being an arrogant a** and used a warrant to get the guy's attention that he does not have the right to take (steal) what does not belong to him. The fine and/or jail sentence will be minimal in this case so the embarrassment & inconvenience of being arrested, booked into jail, having to bond out, and then go to court on the date his hearing is set may be the deterrence that actually affects this guy.

 

[creekbend]

Since the OP made the statement about Charging Cell Phones at the Airport, I am also quilty. I have been in at least two Airports where there were designated areas posted where to charge one's PC or Cell Phone. Also the larger Greyhound Stations, have areas for this purpose. Of course, it isn't advisable to leave the area while charging.

 

[aczlan]

In most states a written warning can be given at the officers discretion for traffic code violations. Theft is under the criminal code where the officer has two options if during his investigation he believes a crime has been perpetrated. 1: arrest the suspect or 2: the officer writes a report then the prosecuting attorney in the jurisdiction reviews the report and makes the decision on whether or not to prosecute. If the prosecutor decides to prosecute he has a couple options on how to get the accused person into court. one is by subpoena, the other by warrant.

In this case it looks like the prosecutor thinks the guy was being an arrogant a** and used a warrant to get the guy's attention that he does not have the right to take (steal) what does not belong to him. The fine and/or jail sentence will be minimal in this case so the embarrassment & inconvenience of being arrested, booked into jail, having to bond out, and then go to court on the date his hearing is set may be the deterrence that actually affects this guy.

Yep. Another case where being polite could have saved this guy a fair amount of time. That said, I don't think that the cop should have been going through the car. Run the plate and go from there.

Aaron Z

 

[Midniteoyl]

You have a car parked away from the 'normal' parking places and in fact, in an area considered 'school employees and deliveries only'. He most probably did run the plate, then found that whoever was working that day didnt match up. The other people at the courts also didnt come over to see what was up or say whose car it was, at that time. He was in full view of the courts according the the report. That is now suspicious. He noticed the doors unlocked, so looked through the car looking for one: evidence of a further crime, two: to find evidence confirming the owner of the car. As far as he knew, it was either abandoned, parked by the owner but the owner was now missing, car jacked and owner was missing, stolen for a joy ride, etc.. you never know.