2LaneCruzer
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My sympathies. I'm betting this is not their first act of this kind, but I hope you make it their last.
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300UGUY
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We had the same thing happen here. It was one dog, a crazy dog my neighbor had. My wife went out to take care of the animals in the morning, and caught the dog trying to pull one of the goats out from a feed bunk. My wife drove the dog off with a hay fork. It was taken to the local animal shelter, and it went after the folks there. It was put down immediately, even though it is a no kill shelter. They felt that a dog that agressive was too dangerous to have. Why anybody wants a dog that mean and agressive is beyond me.
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cletus99
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We have discussed a live stock guard dog. We may go that route. We originally got goats to keep down the grass in the pasture so we didn't have so much to cut. We've really enjoyed having them. It will be a while before we get any more. Not until I can make sure it's more secure with an electric wire and maybe even a guard dog. We're out a quite a bit of money right now and we're trying to concentrate on not losing our hogs. They are an expensive breed themselves and we hope to breed them when they're old enough.
We actually never really see any dogs running around. We've got a neighbor down the road probably a couple hundred yards away with probably 15 to 20 goats or more. He's not had any attacks. So I don't know. Over a year of having them and never a problem.
A guy I work with made a good point yesterday when talking with him. I started trapping raccoons this past weekend at the back of my property because they kept eating up my deer corn. Caught two raccoons and a opossum in it over a 3 day period. The opossum was in the trap yesterday. He mentioned that the raccoons could have possibly called in the animals to the area that attacked my goats. I don't know, but I guess it's possible.
I appreciate everyone's comments and condolences. Thanks!
We actually never really see any dogs running around. We've got a neighbor down the road probably a couple hundred yards away with probably 15 to 20 goats or more. He's not had any attacks. So I don't know. Over a year of having them and never a problem.
A guy I work with made a good point yesterday when talking with him. I started trapping raccoons this past weekend at the back of my property because they kept eating up my deer corn. Caught two raccoons and a opossum in it over a 3 day period. The opossum was in the trap yesterday. He mentioned that the raccoons could have possibly called in the animals to the area that attacked my goats. I don't know, but I guess it's possible.
I appreciate everyone's comments and condolences. Thanks!
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No not "wild" pit bulls.......just the ones that the trailer trash think they HAVE to have and let run loose. They partner up with a couple of others and run "wild" or...............a pack of let loose, "dumped", dogs that have gone feral roam over several miles...........
For me, is the three "S" rule, for ANY dog that comes on my place and shows an interest in what is in the pastures:
Shoot
Shovel
Shut-up
When whoever comes looking around for their poor lost dog...........I know very little except....It went that way...
Do try to pay attention to having MORE THAN 1 LGD......we ALWAYS keep 2 per pasture. lolol....we only have 7 dogs if you count the herding Border Collies which are never just turned loose in a pasture as they will run the critters till they die from over exertion.................
By the way......LGD puppies are a true money maker....Mixed or not pure with papers, Anatiolians, bring $200 easy each and with papers $600 to $800......A good momma has 10 or so per litter.........NO I AM NOT SAYING TO RUN A PUPPY MILL............
God bless.........Dennis
jveretto
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If you choose donkeys as guard animal, I would not use a jack. I have had jacks kill goats! Just my experience! Sorry for your loss!
creekbend
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Finding tracks and identifying them later or taking pictures will be too late. Please get a Dog and train it.
RobertBrown
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I'm getting pi$$ed off just reading this. I would have to find out what happened and get some resolution
I had a lease in GA, about 150 NE of you a few years back, and we had a feral dog problem. Over the years, several dogs were shot, a couple dropped on the property, but As far as I know the problem still occurs from time to time.
If it was dogs, it's a hard problem to solve as the frequency of occurrence is impossible to predict. You just can't pattern a domestic dog that is allowed to run or otherwise escape. In our situation the suspect dogs could be found around the local dumpster. 1 of the locals would stop by the dump at night from time to time and "light it up" and cull the dogs. I think some people will give food to strays. This produces a situation that encourages breeding and more strays. looking at Doerun, I'm guessing there is no "animal control" and if there is, it's obviously inadequate. Georgia is like most states and has provisions for killing dogs that attack live stock. So, you are well within your rights if you kill one of these dogs.
I suspect that your problem is similar to the one we had and the culprit is domesticated dogs, rather than a wild animal. I would check the pen/ fence for hair and look for tracks around the area. Look for trails left with tracks. This should give some idea of the size of the dogs.
I just can't buy that but maybe you have really weird situation.
I would invest in some outdoor lighting, either dawn to dusk or motion activated. Keep a shot gun or rifle at the ready. There's a small chance that one of the culprits may have the owner's identification on it. If you can get that dog then you know where the problem lies.
I had a lease in GA, about 150 NE of you a few years back, and we had a feral dog problem. Over the years, several dogs were shot, a couple dropped on the property, but As far as I know the problem still occurs from time to time.
If it was dogs, it's a hard problem to solve as the frequency of occurrence is impossible to predict. You just can't pattern a domestic dog that is allowed to run or otherwise escape. In our situation the suspect dogs could be found around the local dumpster. 1 of the locals would stop by the dump at night from time to time and "light it up" and cull the dogs. I think some people will give food to strays. This produces a situation that encourages breeding and more strays. looking at Doerun, I'm guessing there is no "animal control" and if there is, it's obviously inadequate. Georgia is like most states and has provisions for killing dogs that attack live stock. So, you are well within your rights if you kill one of these dogs.
I suspect that your problem is similar to the one we had and the culprit is domesticated dogs, rather than a wild animal. I would check the pen/ fence for hair and look for tracks around the area. Look for trails left with tracks. This should give some idea of the size of the dogs.
To suspect that the racoons "called in" other animals is a nonsensical concept in my opinion. I think someone watches too much Disney or something. Is your friend suggesting that this was some kind of planed retaliatory attack because you trapped a few coons and a marsupial?
I just can't buy that but maybe you have really weird situation.
I would invest in some outdoor lighting, either dawn to dusk or motion activated. Keep a shot gun or rifle at the ready. There's a small chance that one of the culprits may have the owner's identification on it. If you can get that dog then you know where the problem lies.
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Two years ago I had a pack of 5 dogs that belonged to a neighbor kill 2 newborn calves & 3 that were in the 350-400lb range. The leader was a pit bull.
I talked to the neighbor that owned the dogs & she told me that "they weren't her dogs they just stay here so I feed them". I told her if they live at your house & you are feeding them they are your dogs & you need to do something with them.
I ended up taking a couple of vacation days from work & was able to get rid of 3 of them. The pit bull & a Shepard mix were left.
About 3 days later I caught them chasing the other calves & put a couple of holes in the pit. He left with a bad leak that looked like he wouldn't make it far but was back the next day. He didn't make it back home that time.
The Shepard mix is still comes around but so far he hasn't bothered anything since the others are gone.
I talked to the neighbor that owned the dogs & she told me that "they weren't her dogs they just stay here so I feed them". I told her if they live at your house & you are feeding them they are your dogs & you need to do something with them.
I ended up taking a couple of vacation days from work & was able to get rid of 3 of them. The pit bull & a Shepard mix were left.
About 3 days later I caught them chasing the other calves & put a couple of holes in the pit. He left with a bad leak that looked like he wouldn't make it far but was back the next day. He didn't make it back home that time.
The Shepard mix is still comes around but so far he hasn't bothered anything since the others are gone.
LJH
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This is horrible, I'm so sorry for both your loss and your poor, poor goats. I lock ours up at night, but a LGD or two would be even better. Two because even if one is distracted - coyotes will play that game, dunno about domestic dogs - the other will still be able to defend.
Funny, I could never stand seeing an animal suffering, wild or domestic. I have no problem with hunting but hate trapping. I eat lots of meat but won't buy if from factory farmed sources. My freezer is full and it's all from local animals who lived the good life, right up until 'graduation day'.
Funny, I could never stand seeing an animal suffering, wild or domestic. I have no problem with hunting but hate trapping. I eat lots of meat but won't buy if from factory farmed sources. My freezer is full and it's all from local animals who lived the good life, right up until 'graduation day'.
Stimw
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You should have some kind of Wildlife Officer or Ag Department?
Maybe they would have some sort of trap or other remedy, or know who owns the animals.
Crack Heads and pitbulls, I got them in my neighborhood too.
Maybe they would have some sort of trap or other remedy, or know who owns the animals.
Crack Heads and pitbulls, I got them in my neighborhood too.
