Trying to compare dump trailers

[Odonnks]

Hi all,
I'm in the market for a new dump trailer and looking for good quality in a 12 ft 9,999 lb or 14 ft 14,000 lb trailer.
There aren't many in my area to choose from so I've only actually looked in person at a Bri Mar.

Quality of the Bri Mar seemed good but I've read allot of web posts complaining of the powder coat not holding up well.

Spoke to a Ohio dealer today who has Load Trail and Hawke brands.

The Ohio dealer actually has units in stock while my local Bri Mar dealer does not.

Can anyone offer insight as to the quality of these three brands?


Thank you !

 

[Diamondpilot]

I got my uncle a 14' 14000# Bri Mar back in 2007 or so. It will dump anything we have put in it and it's pulled very well. I use it with my F350 but he has a F150 and before that a Expedition. My father has pulled it with his F150 Eco Boost and a buddy has pulled it with a 1500 Siera. The down sides. Heavy. Empty weight is 4200# leaving a legal load right at 5 tons. The powder coat peals off in sheets. For this reason I will no longer sell powder coated trailers. Paint is easier to fix and black is the best. A rattle can of black Rust a Resistant spay paint is all you need.


All in all a great trailer with a crummy paint job.


Chris

 

[Scooby074]

RE: paint.

Look at getting a Galvanized trailer. Lots of salt where I live and I havent seen a trailer paint or PC that holds up like a good galvanized. Cost a bit more, but if youre looking for a no-fuss, lifetime trailer it may be worth it for you.

 

[corl]

I too have a Bri-Mar dump trailer. It is black and has had numerous black rattle cans of paint to keep it from rusting. Good sturdy trailer and it lifts almost anything you can put in it. I've had mine for 6 years. I keep it in a shed now so rusting is not so much of a problem. I second the poor paint job from the factory. I'm sure it will last mine useful life. You live in Pa and they are made near Chambersburg, Pa. I picked mine up at the factory. Easily done.

 

[Odonnks]

I too have a Bri-Mar dump trailer. It is black and has had numerous black rattle cans of paint to keep it from rusting. Good sturdy trailer and it lifts almost anything you can put in it. I've had mine for 6 years. I keep it in a shed now so rusting is not so much of a problem. I second the poor paint job from the factory. I'm sure it will last mine useful life. You live in Pa and they are made near Chambersburg, Pa. I picked mine up at the factory. Easily done.

I called the Bri Mar factory. They will only sell to a dealer.
My dealer, who sold his last two Bri Mar dumps last week, told me today they will make a run this week and pick a bunch up.

He's maybe 15 minutes away so that works well.

Now I just need to pull the trigger ...

 

[Diamondpilot]

I called the Bri Mar factory. They will only sell to a dealer.
My dealer, who sold his last two Bri Mar dumps last week, told me today they will make a run this week and pick a bunch up.

He's maybe 15 minutes away so that works well.

Now I just need to pull the trigger ...

So you are going with a powder coated trailer after everyone of us have complained about it?

It's a good trailer but I will not sell another or recommend one. Get a painting unit and stay away from powder coat.

Chris

 

[nc redneck]

Check out Kaufman. They only sell direct and could be a drive for you. Many trailer brands are shipped out of Kaumans factory on 18 wheeler. They get decals when they land on dealers lot.

 

[Rustyiron]

Check out B Wise trailers. The guy (Brian) is the original Bri (an) Mar owner, sold it and it went down hill, at least this is what I've been told. He is now back in bus. in Chambersburg PA. building these B Wise trlrs. I told a friend about them and he just orderded and recieved it (dump trailer) and is very pleased with it. They do some kind of "bath" of the steel before it is powder coated and it has a very good warranty on the finish & trlr. in general. I think my buddy said 2yrs on the finish & 5 on the trlr. They also only sell through dealers only.

 

[kenmac]

I have a Tow Master brand dump. I have had to touch up the paint on mine in several places. I bought it used and saved a ton of $$. Great trailer heavy built

 

[JJZ 109]

I've got a 6x12 CAM Superline. Overall, happy with it. My only recommendation would be to go with dual rams. When picking up crushed stone I have to make sure that it's not loaded too much toward the front of the trailer. I've had times where I had to "assist" it with skid steer bucket to have it dump. But then again I'm sure it's always a good idea to not load it front heavy anyway. Better to keep the weight over the axles whenever possible and not have too much tongue weight.

 

[Bigkrank]

No Bri-Mar dealers close here. Checked out some cheaper ones and found they won't dump heavy loads. I don't like to shovel. Spent the coins and got a PJ. Built very heavy and dumps anything put in it. Worse thing is the powdercoat scratching as others have said.

 

[Budweiser John]

Although a bit of a hike from your location, check out Becks trailer sales .com in St. Johns Michigan.
These folks have over 100 trailers on the lot of all varieties and are capturing a huge share of the Michigan trailer market.
I see a lot of Brimar trailers on the road however their lifting mechanism is simple single cylinder that I understand is prone to bending if overloaded or the trailer is not exactly level when dumping. I'd look for a unit with a sisars type lift unit under the deck. My trailer has a Rugby lift mechanism and over the last 14 years has proven to be bullet proof. Also, look for grease able pivot points on the rear end.

 

[kenmac]

I've got a 6x12 CAM Superline. Overall, happy with it. My only recommendation would be to go with dual rams. When picking up crushed stone I have to make sure that it's not loaded too much toward the front of the trailer. I've had times where I had to "assist" it with skid steer bucket to have it dump.

I only have 1 large ram in the center. My trailer will dump 6 tons of crushed stone ,but that's about all it will dump. I've had to assist the trailer with dumping 7 tons

 

[Odonnks]

I ended up ordering a 14-ft 14,000 GVW two ram Bri Mar.

http://www.bri-mar.com/trailers/dt714lp-le-14/

I wanted a trailer large enough to haul my tractor.

There has been allot of posts about bad powder coat from Bri Mar. My dealer (15 min from home) assured me this was due to poor metal prep due to a cleaning solution purification system malfunction they were unaware of.
Supposedly fixed now .... We'll see.

Should be here late next week.

Thanks for all of the feedback.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I ended up ordering a 14-ft 14,000 GVW two ram Bri Mar.

http://www.bri-mar.com/trailers/dt714lp-le-14/

I wanted a trailer large enough to haul my tractor.

There has been allot of posts about bad powder coat from Bri Mar. My dealer (15 min from home) assured me this was due to poor metal prep due to a cleaning solution purification system malfunction they were unaware of.
Supposedly fixed now .... We'll see.

Should be here late next week.

Thanks for all of the feedback.

Hope all is well but every powder coated trailer I have seen ends up rusty

Chris

 

[QRTRHRS]

I ended up ordering a 14-ft 14,000 GVW two ram Bri Mar.

DT714LP-LE-14 - Bri-Mar

I wanted a trailer large enough to haul my tractor.

There has been allot of posts about bad powder coat from Bri Mar. My dealer (15 min from home) assured me this was due to poor metal prep due to a cleaning solution purification system malfunction they were unaware of.
Supposedly fixed now .... We'll see.

Should be here late next week.

Thanks for all of the feedback.

Having worked quality assurance if semi-conductor and aerospace, I question the malfunction excuse. But then having worked in those fields maybe I should just question the "unaware of" part. Anyway, that said, I had an 07' model Bri-Mar tandem dually with a scissors lift.

While the paint was indeed garbage, I dumped loads that were so heavy that I had to put my 97' Dodge dually with 4:10's in low range to get moving. Nor did I have an issue with the lift bending having moved several loads on site around my property.

Odonnks, I cannot tell by the website how the tailgate functions. You want to get the combination gate that will open swing door or will dump like a true dump body gate.

 

[amigauser]

Check out B Wise trailers. The guy (Brian) is the original Bri (an) Mar owner, sold it and it went down hill, at least this is what I've been told. He is now back in bus. in Chambersburg PA. building these B Wise trlrs. I told a friend about them and he just orderded and recieved it (dump trailer) and is very pleased with it. They do some kind of "bath" of the steel before it is powder coated and it has a very good warranty on the finish & trlr. in general. I think my buddy said 2yrs on the finish & 5 on the trlr. They also only sell through dealers only.

They are one owner again (Bwise and Bri-Mar).
http://m.therecordherald.com/article/20131016/NEWS/131019902/1001/NEWS

 

[JJZ 109]

I only have 1 large ram in the center. My trailer will dump 6 tons of crushed stone ,but that's about all it will dump. I've had to assist the trailer with dumping 7 tons

Same here, single ram in the center. It's a 5CAM612LPD, which they call a standard duty model. Payload is 9,140. I've had the max load or just a shade over in it. It'll dump with fresh battery and a properly positioned load. But I don't have control over the loader guy at the pit and a couple of times it was a tad front heavy, so I had to give 'er a little assist with the Bobcat.
I ordered it with the tarp/roller/aluminum cover and a 3 way tailgate. I recommend both of these options if someone is buying new. The tarp was nice when the wife sent me out for a load of mulch for the landscaping.
I almost went with a 10 foot model, but after measuring the Bobcat at the last minute I went with a 12. The Bobcat will go in with a little to spare on each side of the wheels, but the bucket is a tad wider so I have to set it on top of the tailgate.

 

[kenmac]

Well, I didn't get a tarp or roller. Mine was used. I paid $3000.00 for it. guess I got a good deal. I've been offered my $$ back several times..... It has some type of dexter torque axles ? (I think that's what their called) No springs on the Axles. My tail gate only opens to the side It doesn't flip up like a dump truck

 

[QRTRHRS]

Well, I didn't get a tarp or roller. Mine was used. I paid $3000.00 for it. guess I got a good deal. I've been offered my $$ back several times..... It has some type of dexter torque axles ? (I think that's what their called) No springs on the Axles. My tail gate only opens to the side It doesn't flip up like a dump truck

Be careful how hard you jack those axles with a load on them and you should be good to go. As for the gate, you may have found situations where the swing gates don't work so well. Just sayin'.