RockyMtn.Hillbilly
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I read every post made in this thread, which for something of this size is nearly unheard of for me. However, since this is a sensitive subject I have experience with, I felt it was the best thing I could do so I could assess positions and logic.
And so far I would have to say only a handful of the folks that have replied are using ANY common sense.
Going back to the OP....
Keep in mind you may think you have the right to do something, but if the snowmobiler feels you are unlawfully detaining them, they just might draw their weapon. It is not uncommon where I live for snowmobilers to be packing a firearm.
So let's just say that detaining them is a bad idea, ok? If you try to do a citizen's arrest or detainment on them, and you're in the wrong, the charges can get very serious.
Listen, I understand the sarcasm and aggravation, but in this day and age more often than not people have become the biggest *******. Man goes out snowmobiling on your land, has an accident and his gun goes off, bullet hits him or someone else, sheriff investigates everyone, check out your humor on line, and BAM now you're a primary suspect because of the sarcasm. You have to consider a worse case scenario when dealing with brainless idiots because, well, stupidity is their home turf. As mankind builds bigger and better idiot-proof items, the Universe builds bigger and better idiots... And so far, the Universe is winning.
Something some of the posters don't understand is what it's like to deal with trespassers that know what they are doing is wrong. In the past 30 years as both a tenant and as property owner I have dealt with ATVers, hunters, fishermen, hikers, campers, off-roaders, you name it. Even had to kick the BLM off of private land twice, the second one I had to do so physically. It doesn't matter who they are, if they don't care, they will be there. Wait until you have to call the county sheriff to remove out of state hunters from your property, and the deputy instead threatens you with arrest if you interrupt the hunters. End result is a few thousand dollars in damage to the electrical connection you have there, the mobile home you had parked there is ransacked and destroyed, and thousands of dollars in tools and supplies stolen or destroyed.
And the sheriff wouldn't even take a report.
That's the worst I had to deal with. Other stuff, minor. And I won't waste time or space telling about them.
480 doesn't want people on his land. It's his land, it's his right. END OF DEBATE. Help him find alternatives without the garbage I read in those 9 pages.
And so far I would have to say only a handful of the folks that have replied are using ANY common sense.
Going back to the OP....
Bad idea. You are looking at possible vandalism and/or reckless endangerment charges & paying for any damage incurred.
Bad idea. Before doing this I strongly suggest that you consult with a lawyer. I don稚 know Minnesota laws, and the lawyer knows those same laws a lot better than you. If you prefer you could discuss this with a fish & game ranger. They likely know more about that than even the county sheriff as they have to deal with poachers regularly.
Keep in mind you may think you have the right to do something, but if the snowmobiler feels you are unlawfully detaining them, they just might draw their weapon. It is not uncommon where I live for snowmobilers to be packing a firearm.
So let's just say that detaining them is a bad idea, ok? If you try to do a citizen's arrest or detainment on them, and you're in the wrong, the charges can get very serious.
Bad idea. Very juvenile.
Comment about the bullets is a VERY bad idea.
Listen, I understand the sarcasm and aggravation, but in this day and age more often than not people have become the biggest *******. Man goes out snowmobiling on your land, has an accident and his gun goes off, bullet hits him or someone else, sheriff investigates everyone, check out your humor on line, and BAM now you're a primary suspect because of the sarcasm. You have to consider a worse case scenario when dealing with brainless idiots because, well, stupidity is their home turf. As mankind builds bigger and better idiot-proof items, the Universe builds bigger and better idiots... And so far, the Universe is winning.
Something some of the posters don't understand is what it's like to deal with trespassers that know what they are doing is wrong. In the past 30 years as both a tenant and as property owner I have dealt with ATVers, hunters, fishermen, hikers, campers, off-roaders, you name it. Even had to kick the BLM off of private land twice, the second one I had to do so physically. It doesn't matter who they are, if they don't care, they will be there. Wait until you have to call the county sheriff to remove out of state hunters from your property, and the deputy instead threatens you with arrest if you interrupt the hunters. End result is a few thousand dollars in damage to the electrical connection you have there, the mobile home you had parked there is ransacked and destroyed, and thousands of dollars in tools and supplies stolen or destroyed.
And the sheriff wouldn't even take a report.
That's the worst I had to deal with. Other stuff, minor. And I won't waste time or space telling about them.
480 doesn't want people on his land. It's his land, it's his right. END OF DEBATE. Help him find alternatives without the garbage I read in those 9 pages.
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