Stopping a snowmobile without injury

[kevin37b]

Use pallets .

 

[MNBobcat]

I agree with the not destroying snowmobiles part, but trespassing is a criminal office, thus someone snowmobiling on another person's property without permission IS committing a criminal offense which would make them a criminal...


I agree that posting the property is a good start, but if there is an active trail (marked by a club or just by people going someplace that looks interesting), just posting it will NOT stop a snowmobiler flying by the posted sign at 60MPH after dark. They wont see it. Hence my suggestion of the highly visible barricade across the trail to give them a unmistakeable sign that they aren't welcome on the property.


Riiiight. The same crowd that has no problem destroying someone's crop of winter wheat (despite the no-trespassing signs every 100'), or driving over someones new pine trees (despite them being marked with flagging tape) is just going to go somewhere else when faced with a no-trespassing sign that they wont see as they go down the trail at well over 60MPH in the wee hours of the morning...

Aaron Z

Aaron,

You need to read this thread from the beginning. I posted a recommendation to use the orange snow fence along with a tip on how to make it go 3 times further.

I explained how the guy needs to solve his problem and the sheriff isn't the answer nor are booby traps. I learned a long time ago its impossible to educate the masses. Have fun hashing things out. This is my last post on the topic.

 

[andrehoude123]

We own 300 acres in northern quebec and the snowmobile/atv trail goes by.....I was working all day at about 70 feet from the trail and hung up my brand new carhartt jacket that was brown and I forgot it there later that night I went back to get it about 3 hours after I left It was gone!! I'm a snowmobiler and a private land own and now I see both sides the important thing is lots and lots of signs!!!

 

[GolfAddict]

Well, I was a bit confused by MNBobcat's assertions about trespass law in MN. I knew the law was discussed in the DNR hunting regs, so went to look, and copied it here. It pastes kind of funny after I copied from the PDF.


TRESPASS LAW
Trespass is the most frequent complaint landowners have against hunters.
Trespassing is illegal and can ruin hunters’ and the DNR’s relations with
private landowners. This could in turn hamper habitat programs, cut o
land access, and possibly eliminate the future of hunting in many areas of
Minnesota.
Always ask permission before entering private land.
Any entry onto
the private property of another without permission is considered trespass.
Landowners may be able to pursue court action against trespassers whether
the property is posted or not. if you are caught trespassing, you may be issued
a citation and assessed a fine under civil penalties, and repeat violators can
lose their license or registration. Or, if you are convicted of violating trespass
laws under criminal procedures, you may lose your hunting privileges for up
to 2 years, lose hunting equipment, and be subject to nes and possibly a jail
sentence. All DNR conservation ocers and all other licensed peace ocers
enforce trespass laws and may issue a citation to a person who trespasses
in violation of the law or who removes a sign without authorization. A
summary of the Minnesota Outdoor Recreation Trespass Law begins below.

 

[Dutch445]

Use pallets .

they just appear everywhere now

 

[DarkBlack]

I've seen sledders go off a marked trail across an open lake by 50 yards just so they could show people within 20 feet of them how fast they are going. There are too many idiots.

That's what young people do. They do the exact same with boats, cars, trucks, bicycles, skateboards, motorcycles, skis, snowboards...

 

[DarkBlack]

I agree.
Rationalizing breaking laws or being rude, by saying one could be doing worse things (mugging old ladies?), is very disturbing.

Don't have T.V. ?
Watch some daily news of what awful things humans are capable of doing, and do it every day. That'll put your "disturbing" into perspective.
Yup, I agree some kids tooling around on sleds spinning up some snow where they shouldn't be, can be annoying, but you got to look at the big picture...

 

[dave1949]

Don't have T.V. ?
Watch some daily news of what awful things humans are capable of doing, and do it every day. That'll put your "disturbing" into perspective.
Yup, I agree some kids tooling around on sleds spinning up some snow where they shouldn't be, can be annoying, but you got to look at the big picture...

Your (continued) rationalization is what is disturbing. You missed the point entirely.

You are proposing a slippery slope of making crimes and rude behavior okay by comparison to something worse. I guess if the murder rate increases, more petty crimes should be tolerated?

That's what young people do. They do the exact same with boats, cars, trucks, bicycles, skateboards, motorcycles, skis, snowboards...

But Mommy, all the other kids are doing it.

See?

 

[mehig]

In Kentucky if someone comes on your property and gets hurt they can sue the property owner......only if they have the property owners permission to be on the property.....that being said.....if someone is trespassing....as in, on your property without permission, even in the absence of no trespassing signs....they no longer have the option to sue in the event they get hurt.......case in point....a neighbors son was playing at our house with my son and fell out of a tree both of them were climbing......long story short...my insurance company paid his medical bills.

 

[Marine3523]

I don't snowmobile, by a friend is a past president of a snowmobile club and the club works very hard at keeping people on the trails. Contact your area club, and if you don't know who the club is; the game warden or sheriff department.
I would go with a game camera, post signs, and build some sort of barricade (brush wall, hay bails, a gate); I would not string a cable or heavy rope to easy to kill somebody. Know of a party, snowmobiling, the wife hit the guide cable for a power pole and she lost her head, she took the cable across the neck ... dead.
25 plus years ago; I had the same trouble with ATVs, per my insurance company, stop the trespassing; if somebody is hurt or killed ... it is your home owners insurance that gets hit so I up signs and build a brush wall over the trail .... remember, they only need to move a few feet to go around a barrier. We see it all the time in Northern MN.
If you catch some body ... Kids; talk to the parents or press charges and send a message; even if the party is a neighbor or relative. You are legally on the hook, if they get hurt even if they are trespassing. A bunch of BS ... trespassing is trespassing.
Good luck.