jiminpa
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what starts when it gets cold and what has trouble? my old mf 35 diesel starts like a gas tractor,but its a 1962. how do the new tractors compare?
cold weather starting?
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TSO
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My 2013 LS R4047 with a Mitsubishi diesel starts wonderfully. On the really cold days, I give it 2 cycles of glow-plug warming, and it starts right up. It IS barn kept though, but the barn is not heated. So, it's out of the wind, but not away from the cold temps. I don't have any type of engine heater installed. Very impressed with cold starts.
Starts better than my previous Kioti CK20S. Starts better than my old Ford commercial mower with a 3 cyl Shibaura diesel did. Starts better than my current Hustler ZTR mower with a 3 cyl Shibaura diesel.
Starts better than my previous Kioti CK20S. Starts better than my old Ford commercial mower with a 3 cyl Shibaura diesel did. Starts better than my current Hustler ZTR mower with a 3 cyl Shibaura diesel.
buickanddeere
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How cold is cold?
DarkBlack
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Turbo's have a harder time starting in really cold temps
cartod
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My 72 JD 820 starts like a champ in cold weather (below 15 degrees). Of course the direct injection port for ether helps out dramatically.
RalphVa
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Our VW TDI (turbo) starts like a gasoline engine.
All the diesels I've owned have usually started with the first 1/2 rotation of the crankshaft. The older ones usually shuddered a bit though. Not so this TDI. The (new) 1025 is no different from our 1983 240D. Starts right away but plenty of shuddering and lots of smoke, blue and white. The 240D didn't smoke like the 1025 nor the 4010 though. No smoke at all from the TDI.
Ralph
All the diesels I've owned have usually started with the first 1/2 rotation of the crankshaft. The older ones usually shuddered a bit though. Not so this TDI. The (new) 1025 is no different from our 1983 240D. Starts right away but plenty of shuddering and lots of smoke, blue and white. The 240D didn't smoke like the 1025 nor the 4010 though. No smoke at all from the TDI.
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Oh, our Isuzu diesel generator doesn't seem to have much shudder and no noticeable smoke. It started on schedule last Thursday in teenage temps. It's about the engine size of the 4010 that I had but much smoother.
Ralph
Ralph
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Man, talk about shuddering ... my old Ford mower would shake & shudder so much, I'd worry it would rattle right off the engine mounts! Then it would roar to life with a big stinky cloud of black smoke. Lol
DarkBlack
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Turbo engines are built with lower compression than non-turbos. When cold cranking in really cold areas the, turbo diesel has only it's static compression to compress ( heat) the air fuel while cranking with the starter motor, so it can be harder to ignite than a non-turbo equipped with a higher static ratio.
9973720wb19
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this makes sense - my 2011 4720 turbo starts fine in the cold (20-0) from inside my shop but if left outside overnight in the wind it takes some cranking and black smoke to get it going. need to keep my battery 100%