Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms.

   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms.
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#31  
Correct Xfaxman I am set at "E". My issue today is I planned to buy a 72 " blower. If I move the tires to "H" at 76 center to center that will put my outside edges at around 92 ". Should do some measuring today to see how wide the rear 96" blade is set at on an angle
There are several other blowers ranging from 6-7' that I can also look at. Although I do like the wider stance I have only small humps on the logging trail where a tip factor may appliy. I have no hills like others may have to deal with.

Tell you one thing ..... I have really learned a lot about tires and distance setting from this thread.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms.
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#32  
Just measured my E set up distance center to center 52" . So 12" narrower than the chart. My rear blade is 90" set at its plow angle. Think I will haul it all apart to do some testing.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #33  
I don't agree that they will face the wrong way.

Here are some better diagrams that show the 8 possibilities for the old Row Crop tractors.
View attachment 357918 View attachment 357919
His center plate is dished out and doesn't look like it would fit dished in, so that leaves 4 possibilities.
E, F, G and H, or the bottom row in the first diagram and 64 through 76 in the second diagram.

His is at position E, right now. He can jack up one side at a time, leave the center plate on the axle and move to F, or raise both sides, leave the centers on the axles and swap rims side to side, keeping the correct rotation and get G an H.

View attachment 357921

Yes, that is correct.... sorta. I may not have made myself very clear, so if not, my bad.

What you said about moving tires from side to side is what I was pointing out in order to keep rotation the same if he wants to move out to the wider settings because the loops will be moved from the outer side of the rim to the inner side, so the tires have to go to the opposite side to keep rotation the same.

He will not be able to leave the dish on the axle to swap to any of the other positions though. The only way to get the rim on the opposite sides of the loops is by removing everything, even when the dish stays on the same side of the machine. It has to come off to get the loop on the opposite side of the dish. Probably still not making myself clear, but if you look at your diagrams and think about it for a second, you'll see what I am saying. I know from doing this very swap on my 4500.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #34  
Correct Xfaxman I am set at "E". My issue today is I planned to buy a 72 " blower. If I move the tires to "H" at 76 center to center that will put my outside edges at around 92 ". Should do some measuring today to see how wide the rear 96" blade is set at on an angle
There are several other blowers ranging from 6-7' that I can also look at. Although I do like the wider stance I have only small humps on the logging trail where a tip factor may appliy. I have no hills like others may have to deal with.

Tell you one thing ..... I have really learned a lot about tires and distance setting from this thread.

I think you will find that the best rear wheel spacing for all around use will be to use the setting that makes the fronts centered on the rears. I know my 7' rear blade would clear the entire width of the tractor when angled all the way, and I never once had a stability issue with them set like that. Set that way, they worked for perfect for drawn implements, or front mounted.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms.
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#35  
If that write up was for me I understand ..................... that the dish has to be moved to the other side of the loop and that the tire goes on the other side to keep the rotation the same.
Should the 6 bolts be removed first ?
I don't think the dish will clear the rim with a slight turn to get to the opening in the rim.
My fear is I drop or lie the tire down and its too heavy to get it back up. My lifter is the bucket and it will be out of commission.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #36  
View attachment 357751
Is this rim adjustable? If so how?

Remove the wheel from tractor
remove the outer bolts
flip over.
reinstall.
??
The outer rim is held on with 6 bolts. In the photo they are bolted to the outside of the lugs on the outer rim. Remove the whole rim from the tractor, remove the 6 bolts and place the dished part of the rim on the other side of the lugs that are on the outer rim portion. That will move the tire out about 2 " per side. It looks like they are already in the dished out mode so swapping the lug mounts is the only way for you to gain a little more width. At least you have the bolted on dish and can extend them a bit. My B26 dish parts are welded to the outer rim and the dish is already dished out to the widest which is about a foot narrower than my RTV 900 track. (outside to outside is 54" and non-adjustable)
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #37  
rasorbackq said:
If that write up was for me I understand ..................... that the dish has to be moved to the other side of the loop and that the tire goes on the other side to keep the rotation the same.
Should the 6 bolts be removed first ?
I don't think the dish will clear the rim with a slight turn to get to the opening in the rim.
My fear is I drop or lie the tire down and its too heavy to get it back up. My lifter is the bucket and it will be out of commission.




I took the entire wheel assembly off first, removed the nuts on the back side of the loop bolts, then laid them down and removed the bolts going through the loops. Next I placed the dish in the position I wanted them in on the opposite rim, and on the side of the loop I needed them to be in, then bolted them back on. I torqued them to the specs in the manual, and re-checked at the interval specified. If your tires aren't loaded, the average man can easily lift them into an upright position and roll them to where you want them for mounting. If they are loaded and you have no other way to lift them, I would suggest taking the machine to your dealer for the swap.

You may not have this issue, but I did- the dish helps to hold the rim in a true circle, and when I removed the dish, it let the wheel go slightly out of round due to tension from the tire apparently not being even all the way around for some reason. I had to work the rim a little at a time when re-installing the loop bolts. The good thing is that I didn't have to squeeze the rim in anywhere, but rather pry it outward at the tight spots. I just used a large pry bar and some old carpet to protect the rim from being scratched. It was no big deal, and I ended up with exactly what I wanted. Just something to be aware might happen.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #38  
Yes, that is correct.... sorta. I may not have made myself very clear, so if not, my bad.

What you said about moving tires from side to side is what I was pointing out in order to keep rotation the same if he wants to move out to the wider settings because the loops will be moved from the outer side of the rim to the inner side, so the tires have to go to the opposite side to keep rotation the same.

He will not be able to leave the dish on the axle to swap to any of the other positions though. The only way to get the rim on the opposite sides of the loops is by removing everything, even when the dish stays on the same side of the machine. It has to come off to get the loop on the opposite side of the dish. Probably still not making myself clear, but if you look at your diagrams and think about it for a second, you'll see what I am saying. I know from doing this very swap on my 4500.
Yes, I understand what you are saying, but I thought the loops would slide through the scallops in the center plate, That is what my instructions were based on.
HPIM2824c.jpg
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #39  
Yes, I understand what you are saying, but I thought the loops would slide through the scallops in the center plate, That is what my instructions were based on.
View attachment 358041

Yours might. Mine wouldn't due to the arches not being high enough to allow it. That last pic of yours really helps make things clearer.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #40  
Yours might. Mine wouldn't due to the arches not being high enough to allow it. That last pic of yours really helps make things clearer.
I don't have a tractor, the picture is from rasorbackq, the OP (original poster). My advice was from looking at his picture and the first chart that I posted.

Here is my "tractor".
:D
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It is 6' wide, 6.5' high and 13' long. Tire size is 14x17.5. Top speed is 15.5 mph, drawbar pull is 7,000 pounds and it will lift over 5,000 pounds! :thumbsup:

More pictres: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...t/160568-compact-telehandler.html#post3243370
 
 

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