Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch?

   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #31  
It's a corporate/stock holder thing. I can remember back in the 60's when Coleman company had a camping stove that had a defect that allowed the unit to flare up and burn people. At that time the company was privately owned by the Coleman family.

In a board meeting the issue was discussed and the lawyers stated that the cost of a recall would be x dollars and the cost of suits would be 1/2 x dollars. It would be better for the company to deal with the lawsuits as it would save money.

Mr. Coleman looked at the lawyers and stated, "My name is on every one of those stoves, you will recall them immediately!"

Ahh the difference

That practice is called Risk Assessment. Most all large corporations do it. My hat's off to Mr. Coleman for standing up to what's right!
 
   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #32  
I'll never buy another GM vehicle. Jacked up company.

By the way... Why isn't the government drilling GM like they did Toyota? Oh wait.. That Toyota lynch mob was from Michigan! Lol

Toyota = non-union --> persecution by the government.
GM = union --> free skate by the government.

If they can prove a coverup, there should be criminal charges related to all the deaths after said coverup.

If they keep going like that they (GM) will soon be in charge of the IRS and the State Dept. They have a lot in common.

Yeah, but they also have the manners of a DMV employee about to go on break, and you're holding them up ...
 
   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #33  
I've heard 2 reports on this comparing it to the Ford Pinto fiasco. Not good. It's already hurting the stock prices. I think they will be hit hard, and stock prices will drop quite a bit yet. It will be a good time to buy GM stock once all this takes it's toll, as I'm sure those prices will recover nicely.
 
   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #34  
I didn't mention sales, I said 'makes sense', i.e., has the range and performance of a similar gasoline vehicle. 84 miles/charge of a Leaf vs 300 miles/charge of a Tesla.

Sales are the ultimate test as to whether or not a vehicle makes sense. With low sales numbers it's clear most people do not think it makes sense.
 
   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #35  
Sales are the ultimate test as to whether or not a vehicle makes sense. With low sales numbers it's clear most people do not think it makes sense.
I agree. The Tesla S doesn't have low sales when compared to it's competitors which is not a Nissan Leaf or a Prius.

First quarter of 2013, Tesla S sales were higher than the Mercedes S, BMW 7 and Audi A8, it's gasoline powered competitors.
 
   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #36  
I have seen 3 Teslas here. I have never seen a Leaf.
 
   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #37  
I find this whole thing hard to believe...If this has been going on for over 10 years, is someone going to tell me one of those ambulance chasing attorney's wouldn't have file suit long ago (pre bail-out)?....If I was driving a car and wrecked due to the fact that it suddenly shut off, that would be my first line of defense--ergo the attorney or even the insurance company...This is really hard to buy. Maybe there is an issue, but really it took this long?

Drop the government motors argument, that's a cop out and has nothing to do with the issue.
 
   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #38  
I agree. The Tesla S doesn't have low sales when compared to it's competitors which is not a Nissan Leaf or a Prius.

First quarter of 2013, Tesla S sales were higher than the Mercedes S, BMW 7 and Audi A8, it's gasoline powered competitors.

Those Merc, BMW, and Audi models also don't make sense.
 
   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #39  
What I mean by electric will never make sense is because electric can never be as efficient as burning the fuel in the car directly to produce energy rather than turn it into electricity, transmit it over a power line, step it down, invert it, put it in a battery, take it out, then use it. Sorry, that's always going to be a looser, and will never make sense. HS
 
   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #40  
Those Merc, BMW, and Audi models also don't make sense.

They makie sense for me Al, they're always broken and expensive to fix. I LOVE them!

Fred
 

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