My dogs killed neighbors chicken

[Bird]

All dogs bite. Yeah read that again everybody. All dogs bite. That's what any and all dogs do given the right circumstances, they bite.

I would have agreed with you before we got the Chihuahua we've had for over 8 years now, and maybe there could be something that would make her bite, but I sure don't know what it would be. If you hurt her, she'll try to get away but she will not bite. She's the perfect watch dog as far as I'm concerned. She'll bark and LOUD if anyone comes around outside, but it's to tell us she wants to get to them to see if she's found a new friend. She just loves people; all people.

 

[Soundguy]

You were present when the neighbor got nipped, so obviously you don't have obedience control of the dog. That's not good, .

Exactly...

 

[aczlan]

I would have agreed with you before we got the Chihuahua we've had for over 8 years now, and maybe there could be something that would make her bite, but I sure don't know what it would be. If you hurt her, she'll try to get away but she will not bite. She's the perfect watch dog as far as I'm concerned. She'll bark and LOUD if anyone comes around outside, but it's to tell us she wants to get to them to see if she's found a new friend. She just loves people; all people.

In a similar vein, Mom has had several Golden Retrievers that will put up with little kids (0-5 years old?) crawling all over them, pulling their hair, pulling their tail, poking them with toys, etc without a complaint.
All depends on the dog, its temperament and the breed's temperament.

Aaron Z

 

[arrow]

She was told not to approach and did so anyway, on your property...her fault. As far as the chicken is concerned they chose to let them free range and one fre ranged to the wrong part....again their fault. I might let them know because it is the neighborly thing but that's about it.

That being said my dogs have always been fenced, even the guard/ sentry trained ones and my chickens are locked up in a run as well.

This may or may not be true. It all depends on how the local laws read in his area. Near me, a man had a 1 acre , 4' stonewall around the perimeter with signs stating: "private property, no trespassing" Within this enclosure, there were 3 horses. One day a car with a family of three stopped to admire the horses. They then decided to hop the wall and place the 3 year old on the back of one of the horses where the baby was then thrown off by the horse and broke its collar bone. The family sued the property owner for $1,000,000 dollars and were awarded $300,000. The prosecuting attorney claimed "negligence" on the property owner and won the case. Things are not always as they seem when it comes to our present day laws. Can you imagine something like this happening in 1890?
Be careful with putting up "beware of dog" signs. That immediately infers you are keeping a known "vicious animal" with all of it's liabilities that come along.

 

[8N Ren]

I agree aczlan, we have a big outside dog, part newfie part lab, i think there's a chance there;s some horse in there too lol. He grew up with 2 other dogs, about 12-16 farm cats at any given time and a little girl that likes to grab,twist and pull....... a lot. He'd completely chilled out, if he doesn't like what is happening he leaves the area.

 

[Soundguy]

In a similar vein, Mom has had several Golden Retrievers that will put up with little kids (0-5 years old?) crawling all over them, pulling their hair, pulling their tail, poking them with toys, etc without a complaint.
All depends on the dog, its temperament and the breed's temperament.

Aaron Z

My dogs, cats, chickens and horsesll all eat together.

yesterday, the dog was stealing sweet feed from the horse bucket every time the horses head came out.

the chickens will loot the cat chow and the cat has to turn sideways and block it's bowl to keep the chickens out... when it gets cold, the dog wedges up against a cow .. etc.

no use for a biter dog..

 

[Soundguy]

This may or may not be true. It all depends on how the local laws read in his area. Near me, a man had a 1 acre , 4' stonewall around the perimeter with signs stating: "private property, no trespassing" Within this enclosure, there were 3 horses. One day a car with a family of three stopped to admire the horses. They then decided to hop the wall and place the 3 year old on the back of one of the horses where the baby was then thrown off by the horse and broke its collar bone. The family sued the property owner for $1,000,000 dollars and were awarded $300,000. The prosecuting attorney claimed "negligence" on the property owner and won the case. Things are not always as they seem when it comes to our present day laws. Can you imagine something like this happening in 1890?

I would not own a horse in a state that did not have specific equine laws. florida has such laws. They state that the owner of the horses are not liable for personal injury to participants caused by the horses at an equine event. An equine event is defined as any place the horse is basically. home, barn, pasture, riding areena, show.. etc. participant is anyone who approaches a horse.

So if you walk up to a horse pasture and pet a horse and it bites you, and you are in florida. .. too bad. horses are inherently large and dangerous animals. therefore voulentarilly being near them limits your rights...

 

[8N Ren]

Not to hijack, but this is along the lines of an issue I'm having with my neighbor's dog. He got a dog last fall that was full grown. It is a larger spaniel of some sort, no doubt a bird dog. I love dogs, but he does not keep this dog penned or fenced and it runs free. It is a nice dog; no issue there, but I have chickens and ducks and it pesters the crap out of them. I am missing 2 ducks. Found one dead in my pond. Can't prove either are due to the dog, but he comes across the road regularly and chases them and jumps in my pond. I haven't seen him catch one yet and haven't made a big deal about it other than running him off if I'm around to do so.

Not too long ago my cat came running around the side of my house. I thought that was odd until the dog rounded the corner too. My cat recently had kittens. Yesterday while mowing the grass in my front yard, the neighbors dog was running across his front yard with a kitten dead in his mouth. I'm guessing it's one of mine.

I have great relations with my neighbor, but am really getting tired of this. When he first got the dog, I told him it's a bird dog having owned several spaniels myself over the years.

He mentioned about putting up a pen or electric fence or something but has not done this. Frankly I don't want to fence myself in to keep his dog out. On the other hand, though, there is nothing in my yard to keep my cat from roaming to his yard although I've never seen my cat over there. I don't want to be two faced and certainly don't want to strain our relationship, but this can't keep going on. I rarely let my chickens out of the coop to free range anymore unless I'm around in the evenings to keep an eye on them. My oldest bird went missing about a month ago now. Once again, can't pin it on the dog, and it could be hawks or anything, but I do have my suspicions based on him chasing my cat and ducks regularly.

Thoughts? Advise?

Sounds like next door to me, I went over there last week, their dog nipped my wife on OUR property after trying to get her to stop digging in our brand new flower bed.

The jist of the convo was this, keep your dog away or I'll deal with it, he looked at the ground and agreed with me. We all know what should and should not be done, but when you deal with things like this for a long time and the owner goes back on his word about penning up the dog well then you become option less in the situation. S.S.S

 

[arrow]

I would not own a horse in a state that did not have specific equine laws. florida has such laws. They state that the owner of the horses are not liable for personal injury to participants caused by the horses at an equine event. An equine event is defined as any place the horse is basically. home, barn, pasture, riding areena, show.. etc. participant is anyone who approaches a horse.

So if you walk up to a horse pasture and pet a horse and it bites you, and you are in florida. .. too bad. horses are inherently large and dangerous animals. therefore voulentarilly being near them limits your rights...

Here SG we also have "equine laws" as they apply to "an event" The "event" needs to be just that, dressage, 3 phase, stadium jumping, horse show, etc. Home owner property issues are under separate heading such as if you were keeping a "Kraken" in your yard. Doesn't matter what the beast is, best have all your ducks in order around here. (non biting ducks at that)

 

[Rock knocker]

The family sued the property owner for $1,000,000 dollars and were awarded $300,000. The prosecuting attorney claimed "negligence" on the property owner and won the case. Things are not always as they seem when it comes to our present day laws.

You have a source for that? One problem with your story is that prosecuting attorneys are not involved in civil cases. Rural legend if you ask me.