Is this right? I can tow MORE with a bumper pull than I can a Gooseneck?

[Rustyiron]

Make sure all you're lights work.
Secure you're load properly.
Haul after 5pm or weekends.
Avoid the scales & truck routes.
If they want 'ya, they'll get ya. (if they see ya)
Don't worry, be happy :thumbsup:

 

[Rustyiron]

Make sure all you're lights work.
Secure you're load properly.
Haul after 5pm or weekends.
Avoid the scales & truck routes.
If they want 'ya, they'll get ya. (if they see ya)
Don't worry, be happy :thumbsup:

 

[CJONE]

What do people with dump trailers do?

A lot of times with a dump trailer, you have a heavy load on the tongue, then when you dump it you have very little, until you fill it up again.

So, would you guys that use WD hitches use them with a dump? And if so, do they need to be adjusted for the load, or is it one of those things that you set and forget, regardless of the load?

I have a 14' dump and never use a W/D hitch. If a trailer is loaded correctly there is no need for a W/D hitch. Like Lutt I have crossed scales at 27400 gross but I try to keep it at 25k. As long as I am not over on my tires and axles I am good with the DOT "so far" Obviously it depends on the officer. I know of a gentleman that was towing a D4 cat with a 3 axle pintle hitch on a 1 ton that the DOT had him go across the scales 3 times because they could not believe he was legal. Axle and tire weight checked out, told him to have a nice day. So I guess if I was towing a camper I would have a W/D hitch anything else I'll load the trailer correctly and get a hitch to match the load I am towing. CJ

 

[joshuabardwell]

I have a 14' dump and never use a W/D hitch. If a trailer is loaded correctly there is no need for a W/D hitch.

Just so nobody who's reading gets the wrong idea, this may be true in your case, but it depends entirely on the rating of the receiver hitch. Some receivers are rated to their full tongue weight without a WD system. Others aren't.

 

[CJONE]

Just so nobody who's reading gets the wrong idea, this may be true in your case, but it depends entirely on the rating of the receiver hitch. Some receivers are rated to their full tongue weight without a WD system. Others aren't.

Yep you are 100% correct, that is why it says "get a hitch to match the load I am towing".

 

[Piston]

Just so nobody who's reading gets the wrong idea, this may be true in your case, but it depends entirely on the rating of the receiver hitch. Some receivers are rated to their full tongue weight without a WD system. Others aren't.

That is a good point.

Good news for me is, my new hitch and brake controller shipped today, so for the first time in years I'll actually have working brakes on my trailer, as well as a proper hitch. I'm pretty excited to see what it's like to be able to stop. :laughing:

 

[texas42]

Interesting thread. I always thought that you'd be able to pull more with a goose neck trailer.

Chad

Before making a blank statement like this a review of the ratings for a particular tow vehicle need to be reviewed.
As you go towards the newer models and SRW vs DRW, the ratings for pulling a gooseneck vs a bumper pull become increasingly further apart.
A couple of examples. (all figures from Ford RV & Trailer Towing Guide)
In 2006 an F-350 SRW is rated for max. bumper pull of 12,500 and a DRW at 15,000 both with WDH.
The same year, an F-350 SRW is rated for a gooseneck between 15,500 and 16,500 and the DRW is rated for 15,600 to 16,600 depending on Cab configuration and whether 4x2 or 4x4.
Now fast forward to a 2013 model.
Again all figures from Ford RV & Trailer Towing Guide.
For a bumper pull, an 2013 F-350 SRW Reg. Cab is rated for 12,500 whereas a Supercab and Crew Cab are rated for 14,000 all with a WDH. The DRW models are rated for a Bumper pull up to 15,000 for Reg. Cab, 15,000 for Supercab and 18,500 for Crew Cab again with a WDH.
The same vehicles for gooseneck towing are rated SRW at 16,300 to 16,800 for Reg. cag depending on axle ratio and 4x2 or 4x4 and the DRW models are rated 23,200 to 22,200 again depending on whether 4x2 or 4x4 and whether Supercab or Crew Cab.
So, the point here is it makes a big difference as to the tow vehicle configuration and when using the newer DRW models the gooseneck hitch can, according to the manufacturer, handle a significantly higher load.

 

[Wnc3]

Interesting thread. I always thought that you'd be able to pull more with a goose neck trailer.

Chad

This thread has gone all over the map....
A gooseneck can handle more weight and safer than a bumper pull, period. Even with all the number crunching, the way it connects a places the weight over the rear axle is superior. (Same trailer ,same axles, even though the neck on GN weighs more. IMHO

But I totally understand the lost bed space and ease of hook up

 

[joshuabardwell]

This thread has gone all over the map....
A gooseneck can handle more weight and safer than a bumper pull, period.

Not if you intend to stay under the GVWR of some trucks. The facts are in the thread.

 

[Wnc3]

Not if you intend to stay under the GVWR of some trucks. The facts are in the thread.

A lot of us don't intend to stay under....that was my point. Back in the 80's all the hot shots with 1tons were way over, but they did it.Those days are gone. Yes I see all the calculations....all in all, IMHO, a gooseneck is safer. Put another way, I would rather pull an over loaded GN with an underrated than a overloaded BP with an underrated truck.