Chains Has anyone tried welding chain hooks onto a piranha tooth bar?

[Sysop]

With hooks on the very top of the bucket, you can roll the bucket out to full dump to get the hooks down next to the ground for low stuff. Additional benefit being once you've ripped the root out of the ground to the full lift of the loader, you can curl the bucket up wrapping around the front edge/toothbar and get an extra foot or so of lift/pull...

 

[vulcancowboy]

I recommend Ken's Bolt On Hooks, here is my setup.

 

[MXBX]

I was originally thinking of going with Ken's Bolt On Hooks but thought I read that they're not available at the moment for my tractor.

 

[Sysop]

I recommend Ken's Bolt On Hooks, here is my setup.

I like the weld on style myself.

Even if I got bolt ons, I'd weld them as well as bolting. These were what I used... They have a nice bevel along the sides to get a nice thick bead in. I think having the weld fully surrounding the hooks adds a lot of rigidity to the bucket top. I would worry more about knocking/bending them off sideways on something more than bolt ons, but I worry less about loosing the flatness of the top edge of the bucket when pulling or lifting straight (which is how I use them). I wouldn't pull to the side due to the strain on the loader arms, so the sideways strength of bolt ons wasn't that appealing to me. Bolt ons could use the bolts as a lever and bend the front edge of the bucket down if overworking them.

 

[kennyd]

I like the weld on style myself....
...Even if I got bolt ons, I'd weld them as well as bolting.

The Bolt-On Hooks are well proven, and can withstand any load a typical FEL on a CUT can lift, there is plenty of data, pictures, and video's on my website showing that.

And I might take some heat for this, but you posted that picture once before and to me it's just plain dangerous looking, and a bad example for any new tractor operator to see. The front tires almost flat, the rear tires barley touching the ground, and no rear ballast are all recipes for disaster. That poor front axle is way overloaded as well.

 

[kennyd]

I was originally thinking of going with Ken's Bolt On Hooks but thought I read that they're not available at the moment for my tractor.

That will be rectified in a few weeks, feel free to email me for more info.

 

[oldpilgrim]

I recently got Ken's Bolt on hooks. FAST shipping, nice product, well made, easy to install. I got them because I trust his welds more than I do my own.

As to the OP's question, I see no reason to do what you are suggesting.

 

[Sysop]

The Bolt-On Hooks are well proven, and can withstand any load a typical FEL on a CUT can lift, there is plenty of data, pictures, and video's on my website showing that.

And I might take some heat for this, but you posted that picture once before and to me it's just plain dangerous looking, and a bad example for any new tractor operator to see. The front tires almost flat, the rear tires barley touching the ground, and no rear ballast are all recipes for disaster. That poor front axle is way overloaded as well.

Indeed, and agreed. I had nothing to use for ballast at the location in the image and should have had more than 15PSI in the tires. I forgot about the low PSI until I had it lifted and saw it. For the record, the backhoe was removed from the back of the tractor where it is shown, and the trailer is just out of view to the left (actually there is just a smidge in view). All I did was see if it could be lifted and if so, slide it into the trailer a few feet away. I felt overloading the front axle for a max of 30 feet on smooth flat ground was safer than overloading a trailer with the tractor and backhoe combo. If something broke it was not going to be on the freeway...

I think all the attachment methods are well proven and some suit certain needs better than others. I've seen many bent tops on buckets from all varieties of hooks and hoops and attachment points, some bolted and some welded. My opinion and preference of weld-on versus bolt-on is based solely on the amount of surface area and geometry of the attachment methods. 1/2" bead all the way around makes a lot of rigidity.

 

[k0ua]

This does not reflect in any way on Kenny's bolt on hooks, as he has hundreds of very satisfied customers, but this is what I did for my Kioti. As you can see it has a pad from the factory on the bucket inline with the cylinders that is made for welding on a hook, so I just welded on a couple.As you can see it did not need any reinforcement



On my old Kubota bucket I converted from pin on to SSQA I welded on a piece of 1/4 inch steel on the top to reinforce it and it also is welded on the the SSQA plate I put on the back of the bucket. This reinforces the top of the thin metal as you can see here in the original photo

Here you can see the SSQA plate where it joins the top reinforcing bar

 

[kennyd]

Indeed, and agreed. I had nothing to use for ballast at the location in the image and should have had more than 15PSI in the tires. I forgot about the low PSI until I had it lifted and saw it. For the record, the backhoe was removed from the back of the tractor where it is shown, and the trailer is just out of view to the left (actually there is just a smidge in view). All I did was see if it could be lifted and if so, slide it into the trailer a few feet away. I felt overloading the front axle for a max of 30 feet on smooth flat ground was safer than overloading a trailer with the tractor and backhoe combo. If something broke it was not going to be on the freeway...

Thanks for the explanation, and taking my criticism wel l:thumbsup: There are a lot of new operators who view TBN and I don't want then to think that's OK, that's all!

Also, I've seen many bent tops on buckets from all varieties of hooks and hoops and attachment points, some bolted and some welded. My opinion and preference of weld-on versus bolt-on is based solely on the amount of surface area and geometry of the attachment methods. 1/2" bead all the way around makes a lot of rigidity.

I've seen the same, but to put perspective here we are (in this thread anyway) talking about a BX sCUT tractor that has a lift capacity of maybe 600lbs