Is 3039R Worth the Cost Over 3033R ?

bigcut · Jul 27, 2014

Looked at the specs on both. Single largest difference for the 3039R is a few HP over the 3033R. Everything else is pretty much the same.
Question is it worth the few extra thousand dollars $ in your opinion.
John

GManBart · Jul 27, 2014

What brand are you asking about? LS makes an R3039, and a G3033, but they are pretty significantly different in capability. I'm not familiar with a 3033R.

bigcut · Jul 28, 2014

Sorry, the brand is John Deere.

GManBart · Jul 28, 2014

D'oh....wasn't thinking Deere. For what they charge for either of those two I'd get a lot more tractor somewhere else.

Between those two, the extra 6hp (less at the PTO) might let you run one size larger implements....other than that there isn't much benefit.

Fallon · Jul 28, 2014

At times i regret getting my Kubota L3200 instead of a L3800. 2,500lbs otherwise identical tractors with 32 vs 38 hp. Pushing it with the tiller I'm very limited by hp. I have also stalled it more than a few times loading at the pile. HP at the pile wasn't an issue until i loaded my rear tires though. before that i was traction limited. A couple times running a 5' rotary cutter i've had to slow down due to things starting to bog down, but not much.

My HST burns off 15% of my HP compared to a gear drive, but i still prefer HST, even with that hit.

TomSeller · Jul 28, 2014

Fallon said:
At times i regret getting my Kubota L3200 instead of a L3800. 2,500lbs otherwise identical tractors with 32 vs 38 hp. Pushing it with the tiller I'm very limited by hp. I have also stalled it more than a few times loading at the pile. HP at the pile wasn't an issue until i loaded my rear tires though. before that i was traction limited. A couple times running a 5' rotary cutter i've had to slow down due to things starting to bog down, but not much.

My HST burns off 15% of my HP compared to a gear drive, but i still prefer HST, even with that hit.

No matter what tractor you have, there will be second guessing and grass greener on the other side. In my opinion, stalling from time to time is something that I can live with. L3200s are nice machines.

bigcut · Jul 28, 2014

Gman,
That's kinda what I was thinking...The specs. are the same...even the lift capacity is the same...so other than having a few additional Horses...I don't see any strong motivation to cough up a few grand more.
JOhn

pmsmechanic · Jul 28, 2014

Just a correction in your figuring though Fallon. You hydrostatic isn't costing you 15% it's only 5.62% which is a huge difference. Tractordata.com has a L3200 hydro at 25.2 pto hp and a gear at 26.7 pto hp. That's only 1.5 hp difference.

MessickFarmEqu · Jul 28, 2014

pmsmechanic said:
Just a correction in your figuring though Fallon. You hydrostatic isn't costing you 15% it's only 5.62% which is a huge difference. Tractordata.com has a L3200 hydro at 25.2 pto hp and a gear at 26.7 pto hp. That's only 1.5 hp difference.

That's Kubota driveline efficiency for you

10-15% is about average.

MtnViewRanch · Jul 28, 2014

Actually I believe the larger losses are generally considered at the draw bar. You know power to the ground and all vs a gear drive . So while the PTO horse power loss is not so drastic, I believe that power to the ground is. But then maybe I'm wrong and Kubota has that superior driveline that Messick mentions.