Kubota B2650 and B3350 info and hints

[6sunset6]

I have a question about mirror image. I want to use a back up camera looking forward. Do they allow mirror image or not or do they all come set up for mirror image?

 

[bumperm]

On my Rear View Safety system, that option is menu selectable. I'm using mirror image for the rear facing cam, as it seems more natural and it what my little brain is programmed for. Front cam is normal view of course.

bumper

 

[Complete Turf Care]

I really goofed when I "reorganized" my photos in Photobucket. Didn't realize it would screw up the images in my previous posts. Haven't figured out a good way to undo the damage yet. Sorry.

If anyone knows how to edit old posts so I can update the photo links, please let me know.

bumper

I don't know how you would do it, but I would really like to see your photos. I have a Kubota L5740 and I would like to install a front and rear camera system. Is there another way to see your pics? Can you re-post them? Or can you provide a link to the photobucket page?

Thanks!

 

[bumperm]

I don't know how you would do it, but I would really like to see your photos. I have a Kubota L5740 and I would like to install a front and rear camera system. Is there another way to see your pics? Can you re-post them? Or can you provide a link to the photobucket page?

Thanks!

Okay, will try the link first, once on the first page of photos, you should be able to go to the next etc. (assuming the link works). The photos are mostly not tagged, I may go back through and tag them. Post here if you have any questions.

EDIT . . . I went back in and added some descriptions on photos.

Kubota Tractor Photos by bumperm | Photobucket

bumper

 

[Complete Turf Care]

Okay, will try the link first, once on the first page of photos, you should be able to go to the next etc. (assuming the link works). The photos are mostly not tagged, I may go back through and tag them. Post here if you have any questions.

Kubota Tractor Photos by bumperm | Photobucket

bumper

The link works. Thanks! Where did you run the power cable for the front camera? Does it go into the cab and connect to the monitor? Could you go with a wireless front camera and just power it from the battery?

 

[bumperm]

Pretty sure you'll want to go with wired cameras. This avoids occasional interference, and since you have to run power to the cams anyway . . .

Camera wire is routed along bottom of front loader brace using double sided hook and loop. At underside of right loader arm is a quick connect so that cam and mount can easily be removed from loader leaving main wire (description follows) in place.

From front of loader arm wire run is routed through a carbon fiber rod (nylon tying to any sort of rod would work) to get the wire to the first steel hydraulic lines. At the lines, the wire, with flex conduit over, is attached to hydraulic lines all the way back to the loader hydraulic quick connect point, at which point there is a weatherproof wire connector so the loader can be removed in total (to make room for winter front mount snowblower). At quick connect point wire runs aft and then up inside cab floor where it goes forward to console alongside existing wire run (I used a razor knife to remove foam sound insulation to make existing wire raceway wider.

A fair amount of work overall, probably spent the equivalent of 3 days on it . . . a lot of time was spent noodling trying to figure what would be the best way. I had no plans, just knew what I wanted.

I wasn't sure how useful the rear cam grid lines would be. I had to slightly shim the cam mount to get the grid lines to fall exactly centered. They can be useful when backing up to an implement or backing onto a trailer.

One final thought, don't skimp on camera or monitor resolution, get the best you can find as being able to see detail is important sometimes.

bumper

 

[bumperm]

BH77 as mounted on the B2650 and B3350

Hint: Do what I didn't department. When removing 3-point lower arms, be sure to put the hitch pins back on the lower pivot pins. Otherwise the bushings may work their way out and jamb the backhoe frame when removing the backhoe. There isn't enough clearance for the bushings to be lost (no small favor there) but you might bend one of the pivot pins trying to unjamb things. Mine didn't bend, but I was worried.

Had to jack side of tractor at sub-frame to get enough clearance to unjamb the bushing. Phew!

bumper

 

[RCMEDIA]

Just have 6 hours on my new 3350. Have a B2782B 63" blower. Been between -30 an 19 here in NW Wisconsin, since i picked up my tractor. Blower and tractor both get high marks so far. I am confused on the DPF regen. My manual says its in the auto mode by default. Without pressing any buttons? I also thought I heard my salesperson say you have to hit the lower right button to place in auto regen mode.

Well after 6 hours the tractor shut down. Dealer picked up and said a hi temp code was triggered. I have been letting tractor warm up fefore using for 15-29 min in low idle. i also had the dealer install a block heater and trickle charger pigtails. Is this the cause of the DPF buildup?

I want to give this system a chance, but need some help.

When operating in cold temps, what tips do you have for DPF to funtion optimally. How long between regen cycles typically?

Thanks

This is the exact reason I ordered a B2650 - you're paying another $5,000 for the turbo to push exhaust through the clogged DPF and the extra 5 hp difference is lost with all the emission crap. In fact you might even have less hp than the B2650.

To make matters worse, you have to suffer with a computer telling your engine when to run and when to shut down, and you have to suffer with start-ups and idling. Bottom line is; if you put the 2650 up against the 3350 I'll bet there ain't no difference in power. Ain't our government great imposing restrictions on these little engines which does not contribute anything to the real problem.

 

[bumperm]

This is the exact reason I ordered a B2650 - you're paying another $5,000 for the turbo to push exhaust through the clogged DPF and the extra 5 hp difference is lost with all the emission crap. In fact you might even have less hp than the B2650.

To make matters worse, you have to suffer with a computer telling your engine when to run and when to shut down, and you have to suffer with start-ups and idling. Bottom line is; if you put the 2650 up against the 3350 I'll bet there ain't no difference in power. Ain't our government great imposing restrictions on these little engines which does not contribute anything to the real problem.

RCMEDIA,

califr's post was responded to previously with advice about what he was doing wrong. There is a learning curve with the computer and DPF equipped, higher horsepower Tier 4 diesels. And I agree that the EPA rules are a bunch of BS. That said, there is no way that a 2650 has the power of the 3350. Ain't happening - you would lose that bet. The 3350 also has a clear advantage at higher elevations (I live at 4900 feet) were a normally aspirated engine loses about 3% per 1000 feet elevation, the turbo supercharged engine does not.

Operated correctly, the DPF and auto regen is pretty much transparent, I pust the button after engine start. If it needs a regen while I'm running it, and it does that about every 13 hours or so, then it takes care of that automatically. I've only had it do a parked regen twice; once when I forced it to do that to see what would happen (I didn't allow it to auto regen), and then again when I was using the tractor for short periods and so didn't push the auto regen button. Pretty much a non event, took 15 minutes or so.

If I were making the purchase decision again, I would certainly consider the 2650, but the 3350 is a better fit for me I think.

bumper

 

[RCMEDIA]

RCMEDIA,

califr's post was responded to previously with advice about what he was doing wrong. There is a learning curve with the computer and DPF equipped, higher horsepower Tier 4 diesels. And I agree that the EPA rules are a bunch of BS. That said, there is no way that a 2650 has the power of the 3350. Ain't happening - you would lose that bet. The 3350 also has a clear advantage at higher elevations (I live at 4900 feet) were a normally aspirated engine loses about 3% per 1000 feet elevation, the turbo supercharged engine does not.

Operated correctly, the DPF and auto regen is pretty much transparent, I pust the button after engine start. If it needs a regen while I'm running it, and it does that about every 13 hours or so, then it takes care of that automatically. I've only had it do a parked regen twice; once when I forced it to do that to see what would happen (I didn't allow it to auto regen), and then again when I was using the tractor for short periods and so didn't push the auto regen button. Pretty much a non event, took 15 minutes or so.

If I were making the purchase decision again, I would certainly consider the 2650, but the 3350 is a better fit for me I think.

bumper

I think you hit the magic word "transparent" that's what your few extra HP (and your extra $5K) will be when its consumed by the emissions. Regardless of your elevation, as I mentioned there won't be enough power left with the 3350 to make any noticeable difference to the 2650. You're missing the whole point of this version of the B model, you guys are paying the R&D for the B model because the in a short period of time the clean running 26 hp engine which like the 21 hp model we've loved for years will vanish due to new requirements and we'll all be choking to death on these shiny tin can models. I have a very close relationship with my Kubota dealer and these new DPF models are quitting and failing throughout the entire line of tractors. The drivers and field techs are going nuts with these new DPF models.

As I mentioned, if you haven't already ordered or bought one - save yourself the grief and money and buy the clean running B2650, if you can't do the job with the 2650 then you won't do it with the 3350 either! I've owned a B21 for the past 14 years and they are bullet proof, the new 2650 is the same version of the B21 21 hp machine except they added 5 HP to run the AC unit - and another 5 hp for the DPF. its as simple as that.