WaxMan's Modifications to the 2013 Grand L 3240 cab

[94BULLITT]

Ok guys, Remember, you only see this weird stuff on a WaxMan thread.

If I know that bumperm has an adaptor that looks like this on his BH77 backhoe.

and Kubota makes a subframe for a Grand L 3240 open cab that takes a B77 backhoe. There should be no reason I can't have a B77 backhoe on my 3240 cab.

I'm going to see my dealer Ahearn tomorrow and see what I can work out on exchanging the backhoes and tires.
If that works out, then I'm going to have two new rear fenders extensions made up.

If you look where Kubota left off with the tail lights hanging down, Thats saying WaxMan, can you do something with this.
I think they made this tractor just for me to customize it.

Right here in town there are two places that have the ability of rolling sheet metal to work the metal in any shape or forum. There just bolted on metal extensions why not make them just a little bit bigger. The bigger extensions will take up the extra space of the smaller tires and give it more of a rounded fender and stock look without the extra space.

Everything else on the tractor is custom why not take it just a little further. Give it a nice custom rounded fender look, add couple of new HST stickers and its one of a kind.

That may be easier, end up with a better tractor, less expensive and better looking then going with a different color and making everything all over again.


Can you see it? The B2650's fenders shown in this picture meet at the bottom of the tail lights. The Grand L , well thats left for me to customize.

Stay tuned and wish me luck.

Oralé Esse, if you put the little wheels and tires on your tractor it will be like a low rider.



Seriously I think you should get the Deere. I seriously doubt you will be happy with the small tires on the 3240, I don't think you have ever been happy with it.

 

[WaxMan]

Oralé Esse, if you put the little wheels and tires on your tractor it will be like a low rider.

Seriously I think you should get the Deere. I seriously doubt you will be happy with the small tires on the 3240, I don't think you have ever been happy with it.

Only the size Roger , only the size.


The ground clearance on the Deere is 10.9
The ground clearance on the stock Grand L is 14
The ground clearance on the WaxMan is 11.0 - 11.5

 

[94BULLITT]

Only the size Roger , only the size.


The ground clearance on the Deere is 10.9
The ground clearance on the stock Grand L is 14
The ground clearance on the WaxMan is 11.0 - 11.5

Difference in front tires,

Difference In rear tires

I think the smaller tires will mess everything up. First the ground clearance is going to be lower. I know it still higher than a B2650 but the 3240 is longer so it will be easier to high center. You loader lift height will be lower of course. I am not sure if it will mess with the loader in any other ways. My biggest concern would be the gearing. Your top speed may be as low a 8 or 10mph. That may not be a big deal if you don't drive on the road but now your high range is going be like your old medium and medium will be like low and the tractor will crawl in low. So the tractor is not going to perform properly. I would also be concerned about the gearing when in 4wd. Ideally you want the front tires to be turning within 3% of the rear tires mph.

 

[WaxMan]

I think the smaller tires will mess everything up. First the ground clearance is going to be lower. I know it still higher than a B2650 but the 3240 is longer so it will be easier to high center. You loader lift height will be lower of course. I am not sure if it will mess with the loader in any other ways. My biggest concern would be the gearing. Your top speed may be as low a 8 or 10mph. That may not be a big deal if you don't drive on the road but now your high range is going be like your old medium and medium will be like low and the tractor will crawl in low. So the tractor is not going to perform properly. I would also be concerned about the gearing when in 4wd. Ideally you want the front tires to be turning within 3% of the rear tires mph.

Everything you're saying makes It more like a B tractor. With a great cab.
It's a matched set of tires off a Kubota L 3800, the tractor will have a little more torque less top end.
Although I never had it on the road with these tires I doubt it will drop from 15 to 8 mph, it will probably pull the hills better though.
Every tractor has different tire size options maybe not as much as this. But the Deere comes with 40 inch tires and 43 inch tires customer choice.

 

[ericher69]

Everything you're saying makes It more like a B tractor. With a great cab. It's a matched set of tires off a Kubota L 3800, the tractor will have a little more torque less top end. Although I never had it on the road with these tires I doubt it will drop from 15 to 8 mph, it will probably pull the hills better though.

. Don't listen to the naysayers Waxman!

Do it!

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[bumperm]

. Don't listen to the naysayers Waxman!

Do it!

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OOOW! Sounds like that guy yelling up at the depressed individual on the building ledge, . . . Jump! Do it!

Listen to the little angel on your left shoulder sayin', "no way!", not that little red guy with horns and tail on your right shoulder, telling you it'll all be good.
Listen to the naysayers, Waxman . . . don't do it!

One issue alone, the ground clearance reduction, should have you saying, "Oh, okay, maybe not such a good idea." With the backhoe on, due to the "cab" extension on the hoe, The departure angle will be really low with smaller rubber. The hoe will bottom out when you go over a dip. If you trailer, getting the tractor and backhoe on will be that much more difficult.

bumper

bumper

 

[WaxMan]

OOOW! Sounds like that guy yelling up at the depressed individual on the building ledge, . . . Jump! Do it!

Listen to the little angel on your left shoulder sayin', "no way!", not that little red guy with horns and tail on your right shoulder, telling you it'll all be good.
Listen to the naysayers, Waxman . . . don't do it!

One issue alone, the ground clearance reduction, should have you saying, "Oh, okay, maybe not such a good idea." With the backhoe on, due to the "cab" extension on the hoe, The departure angle will be really low with smaller rubber. The hoe will bottom out when you go over a dip. If you trailer, getting the tractor and backhoe on will be that much more difficult.

bumper

bumper

Gee's it's not like I'm cutting the tractor in half with a torch, they bolt on and unbolt off in twenty minutes or less. Sometimes you just got to do stuff or you end up never doing anything. The way I look at it you got the angel and the red guy mixed up.

I would think you guys would think it would be more crazy to downsize the backhoe?

Problem is I didn't give the tires a fair chance when I had them on, I listened to the drivers opinion after delivery got cold feet and went back to the original.

 

[The Fred]

Go with green.

I'll never buy another Kubota.

Fred

 

[4shorts]

Well I'm going to chime in here and I know Waxman is going to completely come unglued but I'm going to attempt to save him from himself. What you are attempting to do is totally unpractical. These machines were designed with a certain tire size in mine and the drive-line was designed with the wheel size and tire size in mind. If you change the rear tire size you'll have to change the front tire size as well to prevent drive line binding when in four wheel drive. Ground clearance will be a huge issue.

Yes you may have level ground now but sometime in the future you may need your machine to operate in an environment that is not so level and because of your altered wheel size you've then limited your machine to operate only on level surfaces.
Putting the smaller wheels on will give you a horrible gap between the rear fenders and the top of the wheels. Yes a filler gap may mask that issue but it will take a nicely designed cab and turn it into something it wasn't meant to be or look like. The back hoe will dig in because it's lack of height. There's to many minus's to make this a viable project not to mention you just spoiled the resale value of an otherwise nice machine.

I know you hate any criticism especially from me but just don't do mods for the sake of doing mods. As I told you before. Keep them practical.

 

[kcender]

Waxman,I understand your situation.Kubota doesn't make the tractor you would like to have.I am the same.My ideal tractor would be an open station B series with the features of a Grand L.It doesn't exist so I make do with my B2620.You are not content with "making do" so you are trying to find a way to have the tractor you want.I wish you good luck and await your solution.