Welder electroquted Sad...

   / Welder electroquted Sad... #11  
They say electrocuted but don't go into any details. They do say he was found in an enclosed workspace. What kinda welding ,what ventilation ,was he trained in confined space ,toxicology report? Would this be the first time the media reported bogus info. Better wait for the ME.

Yea......there has to me more to this story. Sad for the guy and family but something just ain't right here???
 
   / Welder electroquted Sad... #12  
The other big problem is, why was he working alone? There's always supposed to be at least 2 people on site and in an enclosed space should have been a person as a watch. Something seems really wrong with the whole situation. Who locked the place the up and left him there working alone?
 
   / Welder electroquted Sad... #13  
The other big problem is, why was he working alone? There's always supposed to be at least 2 people on site and in an enclosed space should have been a person as a watch. Something seems really wrong with the whole situation. Who locked the place the up and left him there working alone?
Bingo ... :thumbsup:
 
   / Welder electroquted Sad... #14  
i'd be asking who say and worked with him last and see what their story was.

I also wnoder if he had any underlying medical problems ( bad heart, drug habit.. etc. )

I wonder if there was a hd extension cord used.. and if it had any issues?

the details will hopefully come out.
 
   / Welder electroquted Sad... #15  
Sad. We don't hear of welders being electrocuted very often. It will be interesting to see what OSHA finds out. He was only on the job for three months. Perhaps he was just inexperienced, unsupervised and made a simple mistake.
 
   / Welder electroquted Sad... #16  
Stories like this always make me sad... and at the same time make me think. My family would be in the same situation. Very sad indeed. Be careful out there guys.

The other big problem is, why was he working alone? There's always supposed to be at least 2 people on site and in an enclosed space should have been a person as a watch. Something seems really wrong with the whole situation. Who locked the place the up and left him there working alone?

This was my first thought as well. Especially with the place locked up?

In any case, all the investigations, or any amount of money can't reverse what happened. Hopefully some monetary reward will at least ease some of the financial burden that the family will no doubt have to bear.
 
   / Welder electroquted Sad... #17  
where i work, supervisory staff can't leave untill a walkthru has been done. only after hours staff allowed are scheduled maint and janitor.. janitor ALWAAYS stays until maint is done.
 
   / Welder electroquted Sad... #19  
Sad to hear, but as to the cause, not likely the welding machine. I have worked with them since 15 years old and although you can get some mild jolts when wet, sweaty etc and touching the ground and the electrode, nothing in the way of enough to cause electrocution.
My bet would be 110V lighting used in the enclosed space vs the OSHA required 12 volt DC lights. Either way, if the widow is smart, she already has a lawyer working on it. OSHA will find the cause and should already be onsite investigating as they always do when a death occurs. Lord help the company if it is discovered that they have participated in a cover-up to the actual cause of death.

I have been shocked while welding when kneeling on wet grass.

Perhaps you should read this.

How Electrical Current Affects the Human Body
Three primary factors affect the severity of the shock a person receives when he or she is a part of an electrical circuit:
Amount of current flowing through the body (measured in amperes).
Path of the current through the body.
Length of time the body is in the circuit.
Other factors that may affect the severity of the shock are:
The voltage of the current.
The presence of moisture in the environment.
The phase of the heart cycle when the shock occurs.
The general health of the person prior to the shock.
Effects can range from a barely perceptible tingle to severe burns and immediate cardiac arrest. Although it is not known the exact injuries that result from any given amperage, the following table demonstrates this general relationship for a 60-cycle, hand-to-foot shock of one second's duration:

Current level
(in milliamperes) Probable effect on human body

1 mA Perception level. Slight tingling sensation. Still dangerous under certain conditions.

5 mA Slight shock felt; not painful but disturbing. Average individual can let go. However, strong involuntary reactions to shocks in this range may lead to injuries.

6-30 mA Painful shock, muscular control is lost. This is called the freezing current or "let-go" range.

50-150 mA Extreme pain, respiratory arrest, severe muscular contractions. Individual cannot let go. Death is possible.

1000-4300 mA Ventricular fibrillation (the rhythmic pumping action of the heart ceases.) Muscular contraction and nerve damage occur. Death is most likely.

10,000 mA Cardiac arrest, severe burns and probable death.
 
   / Welder electroquted Sad... #20  
We could never work alone at GM. There were managers that tried to challenge that, but the union safety folks always shot them down.
 

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