How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ?

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   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #401  
Reference please. Those numbers seem a bit high (accidental poisoning especially unless that includes medication). More to the point, the only way we can collect and understand that sort of data is by doing research. So why does the NRA block CDC from doing research on firearms?

How does the NRA "block" the CDC from doing anything?...please don't say lobbying...it does not hold water...
As for statistical citations...just do some googling...I admit not all the data is from this year...most of the CDC stats are in PDF form but what I cited is factual...
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #402  
Why does a gun organization lobby to prevent the world's leading public health research organization from studying firearm deaths and injuries? Isn't the point of bearing arms to protect? Public health research is also aimed at understanding risks and identifying strategies to lower risks to health and life. NRA should support research that could help make firearms safer. Or, perhaps that is not their current agenda.
Because the information can't be trusted and would be used as propaganda to subvert the public, out of their rights. HS
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #403  
How does the NRA "block" the CDC from doing anything?...please don't say lobbying...it does not hold water...
As for statistical citations...just do some googling...I admit not all the data is from this year...most of the CDC stats are in PDF form but what I cited is factual...

Google it. NRA specifically lobbied to pass a law in 1996 to have ALL firearms related research cut from CDC's budget. CDC used to do such work as a routine part of injury prevention. NRA didn't like it and the CDC budget was cut with specific instructions not do do firearms work.

Here is an article about it from the NY Daily News in May this year: No funds for studies on gun violence - NY Daily News

Guns kill 32,000 Americans a year, but not one penny is given to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to find out why.
Victims of gun violence can thank the National Rifle Association for squeezing off that funding.
The NRA began lobbying Congress in the 1990s to limit the CDC’s funding after the agency gave financial backing to an independent study that found that keeping a gun in the home was strongly associated with an increased risk of homicide.
The pro-gun behemoth succeeded in ramming legislation through in 1996 that forbade the CDC from using federal funds for studies that “advocate or promote gun control.”
Known as the Dickey Amendment for Rep. Jay Dickey (R-Ark.), who sponsored it, the bill didn’t outright ban gun research — but made it clear the CDC risked all its funding if it gave financial support to studies that might not suit the NRA’s agenda.
After the Dickey bill passed, Congress took $2.6 million from the CDC budget — the amount the agency had spent on the study about guns in homes — and redirected it to a study of brain injuries.
The chilling effect caused by those actions has kept Americans in the dark about many aspects of gun violence, according to John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety.
“For more than 20 years, NRA leadership has advanced policies to obstruct access to and prevent analysis of gun violence and its causes — and blocked questions from police, military officers and even doctors to learn more. We support efforts to increase funding for scientific research that will help us end the gun violence that kills 86 Americans every day,” said Feinblatt, who was former Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s chief policy adviser on guns.
The NRA did not respond to requests for comment.
The CDC budgeted $59 million in 2014 to study coal mining deaths — there have been 18 this year.
The CDC, the nation’s main health protection agency, has budgeted $10 million to study Lyme disease, $105 million on the effects of tobacco and $67 million on diabetes — yet it doesn’t get a single dollar of funding to research firearm deaths.
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #404  
Because the information can't be trusted and would be used as propaganda to subvert the public, out of their rights. HS

Exactly. NRA has to hide the truth from the public. Why else would they object?
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #405  
From:
Reviving the CDC

Government-funded gun research was openly biased in the 1990s. CDC officials unabashedly supported gun bans, used CDC funds to advocate strict gun control, and poured millions of taxpayer dollars into funding “research” that was in fact advocacy — thinly disguised medical-journal hit pieces against gun ownership. Congress investigated and in 1997 forbade the use of CDC funds “to advocate or promote gun control.”
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #406  
From:
Reviving the CDC

Government-funded gun research was openly biased in the 1990s. CDC officials unabashedly supported gun bans, used CDC funds to advocate strict gun control, and poured millions of taxpayer dollars into funding “research” that was in fact advocacy — thinly disguised medical-journal hit pieces against gun ownership. Congress investigated and in 1997 forbade the use of CDC funds “to advocate or promote gun control.”

Actually, they collected and analyzed data. Read it yourself. It's in the public domain.
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #407  
Good grief ... Just reading the first line is more than most normal people can tolerate.

Here's another newsflash for IT .....

It isn't that anyone is necessarily against "studying" firearms safety issues. It "is" the misuse of the study results to infringe upon the right to bear arms.

At the end of the day - Your freedom is more important than the risk(s). If a million people per day died from firearms, it would NEVER justify the attempts to destroy the right. Living in a free society comes with risk(s). If you are afraid to live free - I suggest China. Bye!
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #408  
Exactly. NRA has to hide the truth from the public. Why else would they object?
Of the 32K deaths you cited...on average less than 5% are accidental...exactly what good would any taxpayer funded research do to lower this...all the research in the world "can't fix stupid" when it comes to irresponsible gun owners, mower operators etc...etc...
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #409  
Of the 32K deaths you cited...on average less than 5% are accidental...exactly what good would any taxpayer funded research do to lower this...all the research in the world "can't fix stupid" when it comes to irresponsible gun owners, mower operators etc...etc...

That was the article. I didn't write 32K I just clipped the article that I linked and pasted it.

Firearm deaths are not only accidents. A large number of domestic homicides are committed with easily accessible firearms. The data from CDC on the risk of a wife/domestic partner being shot by her mate were rather striking. Of course he could have beaten her to death with a wet sponge (name whatever implement you like) but gunshots are more efficient and harder to survive.

Point is that firearms cause a lot of deaths in this country. Approximately as many as MVI. We study automobile accidents to make cars safer and to educate drivers (eg wear seatbelts). We should do no less to understand firearm deaths.
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #410  
Exactly. NRA has to hide the truth from the public. Why else would they object?
Some real journalism happening tonight. I guess you don't get that channel. HS
 
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