Ford releases fuel numbers for the new F-150

[jejeosborne]

I still don't understand all this worry over aluminum -- I've had it in various forms on many cars over the years, and never had issues. Other manufacturers have had all-aluminum bodies for quite some time.

I agree.

 

[jejeosborne]

What is this based on?

My understanding is the opposite, that is why they dont' sell aluminum sheet metal for barns but they do use it for soffit. Obviously aluminum does not do well in hail or they would sell aluminum sheet metal. But in an application where impact resistance is not an issue the aluminum does just fine.

I'd be really curious how that goes getting repaired. Do shops get paid more by the insurance companies or does the owner pick up the extra costs associated with repairing aluminum?

It's about the impact resistance. Works fine on soffit but not on the roof.

Are you disputing Fords claim that the new aluminum panels are more dent resistant?

Are you really concerned that the insurance company will not pay the complete claim and the "extra costs" will have to be paid by the owner? What sparked that thought?

Aluminum 2015 Ford F-150 not at risk from hail damage according to top engineer - Torque News

 

[wawajake]

Are you disputing Fords claim that the new aluminum panels are more dent resistant?

Are you really concerned that the insurance company will not pay the complete claim and the "extra costs" will have to be paid by the owner? What sparked that thought?

Aluminum 2015 Ford F-150 not at risk from hail damage according to top engineer - Torque News[/QUOTE

I suspect the point is that insurance companies will eventually realize F150 is more expensve to repair so will charge slightly more per year for owners to insure compared to steel vehicles that are simpler . Time will tell.....if more manufacturers jump on the aluminum bandwagon then the costs will come down at autobody shops because "specialty work" has become normal. Compare it to how insurance companies view insuring a Corvette compared to a Corrolla.....the Corvette has fiberglass body concerns and reputation for speed...........and considering how some of the F150 owners here seem to drool over the 0 to 60 times for their trucks maybe both speed and body work resulting from your Ecobuosts wild speed capability, the word might get out to those insurance types, so you may want to tone down your exaggerations if you want to keep the insurance rates down

 

[TomSeller]

1. What is this based on?

2. My understanding is the opposite, that is why they dont' sell aluminum sheet metal for barns but they do use it for soffit. Obviously aluminum does not do well in hail or they would sell aluminum sheet metal. But in an application where impact resistance is not an issue the aluminum does just fine.

3. You were the one claiming that all the studies that were shown were all rigged against Ford and it was a conspiracy. Now you are spreading misinformation about aluminum and trying to justify Ford having aluminum trucks by looking at how wheels are made.

4. Go look at how thick those aluminum wheels are

5. Oh and claiming that fleet vehicles dont get repaired really does nothing to help your position of how great aluminum is. You basically are saying those vehicles dont get repaired so the additional cost to repair aluminum panels doesn't mean much.

1. Fact
2. Do your aluminum wheels dent easily? It depends on alloys and thickness. The Ford panels are thicker in aluminum than they were in steel.
3. Please READ. I said it the article was slanted against the Chevrolet.
4. It is WEIGHT not thickness that matters. So yes, the wheels are thicker but weigh less.
5. Please READ. I said fleet vehicles OFTEN don't get repaired after fender benders. We don't and the resale is nearly the same.

 

[wawajake]

Tom you are comparing apples to oranges.

 

[TomSeller]

Tom you are comparing apples to oranges.

Actually aluminum to steel.

 

[jejeosborne]

Actually aluminum to steel.

Exactly. Aka apples to oranges. Lol

 

[Diamondpilot]

At the end of the day all will go to aluminum. I remember early aluminum engines. Same squabbling. Fact is its less damage prone so less claims but when there is a claim it's slightly more expensive.

I will call my insurance man Monday and get a quote and compare it to my 2012. That will tell the real story.

Chris

 

[TomSeller]

Tom you are comparing apples to oranges.

Well now that I think of it, the Ford can haul more oranges and more apples. It can accelerate better than the competition while filled with either apples or oranges. The Ford can tow more apples or oranges....on and on. The Dodge might be better idling over spilled milk.

 

[crazyal]

At the end of the day all will go to aluminum. I remember early aluminum engines. Same squabbling. Fact is its less damage prone so less claims but when there is a claim it's slightly more expensive.

I will call my insurance man Monday and get a quote and compare it to my 2012. That will tell the real story.

Chris

No. At the end of the day they will all go to a carbon fiber composite. Whether or not every brand will go to Aluminum first is the real question.