Just thinking. the last 20 years or more I haven't seen anyone use their tractors for logging. We used the tractor to pick up bucked up wood into a wagon and pull on good ground, to where we store it. Normally for most years we hauled our wood with snowmachine, and maybe half the way, to retrieve it in the spring with the tractor. I often think of logging with the old tractors. I can't remember the model of the tractors, I think one was a 6 cylinder, international maybe. It wasnt physically as big as the Farmall M we have, but I'm thinking it may have had more power, or so I think only. But we were early teenagers and I remember pulling wagons loaded with 8 foot logs (for pulp) over the choppin/cutover , over tree tops, stumps, holes etc. The front wheels rarely touched the ground. I often think while looking at these new tractors, from...i don't know, 1975 and up and think they do not look half as robust as they use to. It looks like you'd break one in half if you even attempted that stuff. Whats peoples thoughts on that?