Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here

[dfkrug]

I used to work for an electrician who had a Caravan that we used to haul supplies around. He had pulled the rear seats, it had shelves built against the walls, we put wire or fixtures in the middle and ladders on the roofrack.
Its amazing how much stuff would fit in that thing.

Yeah, the Chrysler minivans get credit (?) for boosting that segment, tho the VW Vanagon really started it. Chrysler
still has near half of the US market share, and the other near-half goes to the Sienna/Odyssey pair.

I am surprised we don't see diesels in this segment. Minivans are no longer really "mini", weighing in at well North of
2 tons, and loaded with features.

 

[aczlan]

I am surprised we don't see diesels in this segment. Minivans are no longer really "mini", weighing in at well North of
2 tons, and loaded with features.

When in Argentina, I drove a Kia Carnival (aka Sedona) which had a 2.9L turbodiesel engine. It was a decent machine IIRC.

Aaron Z

 

[3930dave]

Yeah, the Chrysler minivans get credit (?) for boosting that segment, tho the VW Vanagon really started it. Chrysler
still has near half of the US market share, and the other near-half goes to the Sienna/Odyssey pair.

I am surprised we don't see diesels in this segment. Minivans are no longer really "mini", weighing in at well North of
2 tons, and loaded with features.

It is unfortunate that the VW/Chrysler pairing here didn't last longer..... if VW had dropped a tdi into that Routan, it would have taken years to clear the sales backlog.

Rgds, D.

 

[Scooby074]

It is unfortunate that the VW/Chrysler pairing here didn't last longer..... if VW had dropped a tdi into that Routan, it would have taken years to clear the sales backlog.

Rgds, D.

I agree, if it had the Tdi it would be a seller, but I bet chrysler wouldnt let VW do it to undercut their sales. In reality, the VW was just an expensive caravan with a nose job lol.

If VW was serious about this segment they would have brought over the Transporter, in 2wd,4wd and DoKa like they did back in the day. VW still hasnt even brought the Amarok here which is a real head shaker considering theyd sell everyone they brought in with the diesel.

Would consumers and more importantly fleets, like municipalities, buy DoKa Vw's with Pritche bodies for work trucks?
Crafter:

What about Ford Transits?

Or would they stay with domestic pickup or C+C that they get for low bidder? I suspect this is the case unfortunately. When MB brought over Unimog, I figured that municipalities would snap them up even at their higher pricetag because it allowed one vehicle to do everything from streetsweep to mow grass and be productive 100% of the time instead of having dedicated, single purpose vehicles like street sweepers used only a few times a year. But then I underestimated the stupidity and lack of forward thinking of the bidding process and government in general.

 

[3930dave]

It looks like we now can get a diesel option in the full-size Transit in Canada.

2015 Ford Transit Work Trucks | View Full Specification Library | Ford.ca

Has anybody seen the fuel consumption ratings on that combo ?

Rgds, D.

 

[Scooby074]

It looks like we now can get a diesel option in the full-size Transit in Canada.

2015 Ford Transit Work Trucks | View Full Specification Library | Ford.ca

Has anybody seen the fuel consumption ratings on that combo ?
Rgds, D.

Interesting theyre offering the 3.2l. I wish they would offer the 2.2l for higher fuel economy.

From an Expediters forum it sounds like about 9.5l/100


Hey yall

I have been driving this new transit since Aug 6.

After now 14,500km and several long hauls.. south carolina, pa, virginia.. etc. I am pleased to say everything is awesome as expected and this is a great van that can make you good money being based in the Hamilton,Ontario area

the gas mileage has gone down to an average of 9.5l/100km 24.6 mpg
The range i get when i fill up is generally 1050km

Handles good, takes heavy loads just fine.. up to 3000lb for the 250
Def level is still ok and the only thing that ive had to add so far is Windshield Fluid lol

I changed teh initial oil at 5000km as its a good idea for engine break in the oil is starting to be black again but there is an Oil light that will go on with 10% oil life remaining. I am curious to see what the oil change interval will be with my type of driving

It takes 11.6 l of oil so after i switch to synethic the oil changes will still run almost 200$ just like a Sprinter. so really there is no savings on Oil changes as compared to a sprinter because of how much oil you need

at this rate ill have like 170,000km by next summer. ill update this post and post some pictures of the van in the near future

 

[Scooby074]

Looking at the C+C brochure from Ford UK, the Transit with the 2.2l diesel, depending on HP gets from 8.0-10.7l/100 urban and 7.0-7.8l/100 highway. Thats pretty impressive (30ish Mpg)

Interesting that Ford Uk offers "Off the shelf" Dump (AKA tipper), Dropside,Van and Curtainside models of Transit.

 

[3930dave]

Interesting theyre offering the 3.2l. I wish they would offer the 2.2l for higher fuel economy.

From an Expediters forum it sounds like about 9.5l/100


Hey yall

I have been driving this new transit since Aug 6.

After now 14,500km and several long hauls.. south carolina, pa, virginia.. etc. I am pleased to say everything is awesome as expected and this is a great van that can make you good money being based in the Hamilton,Ontario area

the gas mileage has gone down to an average of 9.5l/100km 24.6 mpg
The range i get when i fill up is generally 1050km

Decent mileage for real world use. Thanks for digging that up.

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Looking at the C+C brochure from Ford UK, the Transit with the 2.2l diesel, depending on HP gets from 8.0-10.7l/100 urban and 7.0-7.8l/100 highway. Thats pretty impressive (30ish Mpg)

Interesting that Ford Uk offers "Off the shelf" Dump (AKA tipper), Dropside,Van and Curtainside models of Transit.

Makes sense for short-haul vocational work - esp. in Europe, but also in our big cities here too. Even driving just a car around the old parts of Toronto or Montreal (or most of Vancouver) can be "fun".

Given the volume you can stuff into a Transit, I'd want the larger diesel - for personal long haul driving/towing. We should be seeing some Transit based mini-motorhomes in the coming seasons - looks like you can go DRW too.

I don't know the history/lineage of the diesels in these Transits.... I'm hoping Renze or somebody else with direct experience with these stops by.....

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Has anybody figured out if the big Transit here is RWD or FWD ?

All I found on the ford.ca site was a reference to 4x2. They seem to be playing a bit coy on that, I won't be surprised at FWD.

Rgds, D.