New 5055E

[RyanTX]

Did John Deere discontinue the 553 loader? I have one on mine but I see everyone else has H series.

You know my dealer told me that the 240 is the replacement for the 553 but it sure seems like it's an option. I still see the 553 in the latest 5e catalog and other dealers were quoting me with it last month. 45e to 75e shows 553 or 240nsl/240msl

 

[rustyshakelford]

Just bought a 5065E myself and have been using my BB2172 like crazy and in much rockier/clay soil. Some rocks it peeled up were so big I had to sledge them out of the box blade. Your scarficers are more commercial grade than mine so I am amazed you busted one.

Nice cab/tires. Two options I wanted but couldn't have due to my terrain/trees. I already scratched up my ROPs bar pretty good :/ The 240 loader is fantastic.

Looks great! You definitely have more rocks than we do. Closest we have is petrified wood and a bunch of it. I'm still on the fence with the r4s. Could use the ground clearance but like how tuff they are. If only the rears where about 4-5" taller it would look better.

Did John Deere discontinue the 553 loader?

I have one on mine but I see everyone else has H series.

As mentioned, I think you can still get it but the 240 is pretty much the standard one now

Brett

 

[Magicman710]

As mentioned, I think you can still get it but the 240 is pretty much the standard one now

Brett

I see. I could have swore I though I saw a list of loaders recently, and the 553 wasn't in it. That, coupled with seeing more newer 5E series with H240's made me think JD was phasing them out.

But it's still listed on the JD website, so I guess not. As you and RyanTX said, the 240 seems to be the new standard.

 

[LoudonNH]

Hey guys, Let me know if I should start a new thread for this. I just figured since a few fellow, new 5000e owners are already here I would ask your opinions on a couple of issues I'm having; brakes and Power Reverser shifting.

My dealer, who has been great, has corrected several smaller issues already, mostly leaks. The tractor just hit 70 hours so I'm well on my way into the break-in period and at a point where I think I've gotten to know the tractor pretty well. Two problems persist, however:

1. When I apply the brakes, the pedals go right to the floor. On second application, they work but only continue to work if I keep hitting the pedals every couple of seconds. If I wait too long to use brakes again, the pedals go to the floor. The problem is especially annoying when I'm using the brakes to steer with, which I do continually when pushing snow... The salesman's explanation was that it is because they can't use asbestos to make brake linings anymore. I don't buy it. Every other vehicle I own has brakes that work fine without asbestos in the brake linings and besides, I think my tractor's brakes are the "wet-type" and are immersed in oil, correct? The service manager's explanation was that when this series of 5000e tractors was introduced, they had a problem with the brakes locking-up on first application and Deere's solution to the problem was to adjust the brakes to a point where the first application of the brakes charged the system with fluid and the second application applied the brakes. I don't know if this is true but I have no reason to doubt the service manager. In any case, I told him that if that's the way the brakes are supposed to work, it's not safe. I don't feel as if I can let anyone but myself operate this tractor. For example, if someone working for me were operating the tractor and got hurt or hurt someone else because of not being able to brake in time, what would OSHA say about my brakes?

The other issue is that when I shift the Power Reverser the transmission shifts violently. I'm usually in 4wd on snow or ice lately, which has hopefully reduced the risk of damaging the tractor. It doesn't seem to make a difference if I'm shifting from neutral to forward of forward to reverse, every shift makes the entire machine shudder. Earlier this week, the dealer sent a technician down to re-calibrate the transmission. He said he got the transmission oil temp up to 160 degrees and then monitored and re-set whatever he needed to do with his laptop computer, At this point, I seem to be getting smooth shifts from reverse to forward bur when I shift from forward or neutral to reverse it still shifts violently. Yesterday the service manager said I'm causing the problem by using the clutch when I stop. He said I should be shifting to neutral and using the brakes without the clutch, only to use the clutch when starting out. I know that's not correct. Even the manual tells you to use the clutch when braking. How else would you load a dump truck for example? You wouldn't just get up a head of steam and coast up to it in neutral... The service mechanics and the manual seem to disagree on a lot of points. The dealer says it's a wet clutch and doesn't wear when you "ride it." The manual says not to ride it. The manual also says to come to a complete stop before shifting the Power Reverser. That's not how it was sold to me; The brochure, the salesman and Deere's video on the 5000e all said you can shift the Power Reverser at any speed. Here's mu question for you guys: I found an option in the owner's manual on page 50-7. It's called the Infinitely variable Shuttle. The service manager had never heard of it and it was never offered to me by the salesman or in the online configuring page on the Deere website. Do you guys know whether or not this device might solve my problem, if so, why would anyone get a Power Reverser tractor without it. This option sounds a lot like the Motion-Match feature I have on my eHydro tractor, not exactly, but similar.

I will say, if this tractor can be straightened-out, it will be exactly the tractor I need. The size, power, maneuverability, comfort of the cab all combine to make it exactly what I was looking for. Plus it's a Tier-2 model. At this point however, it's not comfortable to operate and it's not safe. As I said above, I'm not comfortable letting anyone else operate it and at this rate it's going to damage itself and hurt somebody or something eventually. For now I'm just using it to push snow on slippery ground and away from people and other vehicles and buildings...

 

[rustyshakelford]

Just bought a 5065E myself and have been using my BB2172 like crazy and in much rockier/clay soil. Some rocks it peeled up were so big I had to sledge them out of the box blade. Your scarficers are more commercial grade than mine so I am amazed you busted one.

Nice cab/tires. Two options I wanted but couldn't have due to my terrain/trees. I already scratched up my ROPs bar pretty good :/ The 240 loader is fantastic.

Hey guys, Let me know if I should start a new thread for this. I just figured since a few fellow, new 5000e owners are already here I would ask your opinions on a couple of issues I'm having; brakes and Power Reverser shifting.

My dealer, who has been great, has corrected several smaller issues already, mostly leaks. The tractor just hit 70 hours so I'm well on my way into the break-in period and at a point where I think I've gotten to know the tractor pretty well. Two problems persist, however:

1. When I apply the brakes, the pedals go right to the floor. On second application, they work but only continue to work if I keep hitting the pedals every couple of seconds. If I wait too long to use brakes again, the pedals go to the floor. The problem is especially annoying when I'm using the brakes to steer with, which I do continually when pushing snow... The salesman's explanation was that it is because they can't use asbestos to make brake linings anymore. I don't buy it. Every other vehicle I own has brakes that work fine without asbestos in the brake linings and besides, I think my tractor's brakes are the "wet-type" and are immersed in oil, correct? The service manager's explanation was that when this series of 5000e tractors was introduced, they had a problem with the brakes locking-up on first application and Deere's solution to the problem was to adjust the brakes to a point where the first application of the brakes charged the system with fluid and the second application applied the brakes. I don't know if this is true but I have no reason to doubt the service manager. In any case, I told him that if that's the way the brakes are supposed to work, it's not safe. I don't feel as if I can let anyone but myself operate this tractor. For example, if someone working for me were operating the tractor and got hurt or hurt someone else because of not being able to brake in time, what would OSHA say about my brakes?

The other issue is that when I shift the Power Reverser the transmission shifts violently. I'm usually in 4wd on snow or ice lately, which has hopefully reduced the risk of damaging the tractor. It doesn't seem to make a difference if I'm shifting from neutral to forward of forward to reverse, every shift makes the entire machine shudder. Earlier this week, the dealer sent a technician down to re-calibrate the transmission. He said he got the transmission oil temp up to 160 degrees and then monitored and re-set whatever he needed to do with his laptop computer, At this point, I seem to be getting smooth shifts from reverse to forward bur when I shift from forward or neutral to reverse it still shifts violently. Yesterday the service manager said I'm causing the problem by using the clutch when I stop. He said I should be shifting to neutral and using the brakes without the clutch, only to use the clutch when starting out. I know that's not correct. Even the manual tells you to use the clutch when braking. How else would you load a dump truck for example? You wouldn't just get up a head of steam and coast up to it in neutral... The service mechanics and the manual seem to disagree on a lot of points. The dealer says it's a wet clutch and doesn't wear when you "ride it." The manual says not to ride it. The manual also says to come to a complete stop before shifting the Power Reverser. That's not how it was sold to me; The brochure, the salesman and Deere's video on the 5000e all said you can shift the Power Reverser at any speed. Here's mu question for you guys: I found an option in the owner's manual on page 50-7. It's called the Infinitely variable Shuttle. The service manager had never heard of it and it was never offered to me by the salesman or in the online configuring page on the Deere website. Do you guys know whether or not this device might solve my problem, if so, why would anyone get a Power Reverser tractor without it. This option sounds a lot like the Motion-Match feature I have on my eHydro tractor, not exactly, but similar.

I will say, if this tractor can be straightened-out, it will be exactly the tractor I need. The size, power, maneuverability, comfort of the cab all combine to make it exactly what I was looking for. Plus it's a Tier-2 model. At this point however, it's not comfortable to operate and it's not safe. As I said above, I'm not comfortable letting anyone else operate it and at this rate it's going to damage itself and hurt somebody or something eventually. For now I'm just using it to push snow on slippery ground and away from people and other vehicles and buildings...

I'd love for you to keep it here. This seems to be a meeting place for the 5E guys.

Brakes. Your dealer is full of it. Contact deere corporate and open a case. In the manual it states if the pedal is soft, they need bled. My dealer is still working on my old tractor with deere to develop a fix.

Power reverser shouldn't be violent. The module you mentioned is $200 if I remember right. I'll add more. At work and we have a run

Brett

 

[Jd5203]

John Deere H260 is basically the same as the 553. They contained all of the hydraulic lines they could into the frame to protect them. Instead of having to take the loader legs out of the cross pipe to park the loader they now just drop down off the frame.

 

[RyanTX]

Looks great! You definitely have more rocks than we do. Closest we have is petrified wood and a bunch of it. I'm still on the fence with the r4s. Could use the ground clearance but like how tuff they are. If only the rears where about 4-5" taller it would look better.



As mentioned, I think you can still get it but the 240 is pretty much the standard one now

Brett

The R4s are great for not destroying the turf as much and they will last. Even in lightly moist soil the R1s and the weight of the tractor/rear ballast make a meal out of my ground. For that reason I have to avoid areas in the front of my house or I would have to regrade/reseed. I don't know if R4s would have totally prevented that but I am sure it wouldn't have been as bad. I have varying flat and hill terrain with rocky and clay soils so the R1s and MFWD were the only option, I have loaded up the rears with mud and have gotten stuck already in 2WD, heh.

As you and RyanTX said, the 240 seems to be the new standard.

It could be, both the 553 and 240 would have been fine for me for the most part. If I could have gotten a better deal with a 553 I would have went for it. My local dealer only had the 240 on hand.

 

[RyanTX]

Hey guys, Let me know if I should start a new thread for this. I just figured since a few fellow, new 5000e owners are already here I would ask your opinions on a couple of issues I'm having; brakes and Power Reverser shifting.

My dealer, who has been great, has corrected several smaller issues already, mostly leaks. The tractor just hit 70 hours so I'm well on my way into the break-in period and at a point where I think I've gotten to know the tractor pretty well. Two problems persist, however:

1. When I apply the brakes, the pedals go right to the floor. On second application, they work but only continue to work if I keep hitting the pedals every couple of seconds. If I wait too long to use brakes again, the pedals go to the floor. The problem is especially annoying when I'm using the brakes to steer with, which I do continually when pushing snow... The salesman's explanation was that it is because they can't use asbestos to make brake linings anymore. I don't buy it. Every other vehicle I own has brakes that work fine without asbestos in the brake linings and besides, I think my tractor's brakes are the "wet-type" and are immersed in oil, correct? The service manager's explanation was that when this series of 5000e tractors was introduced, they had a problem with the brakes locking-up on first application and Deere's solution to the problem was to adjust the brakes to a point where the first application of the brakes charged the system with fluid and the second application applied the brakes. I don't know if this is true but I have no reason to doubt the service manager. In any case, I told him that if that's the way the brakes are supposed to work, it's not safe. I don't feel as if I can let anyone but myself operate this tractor. For example, if someone working for me were operating the tractor and got hurt or hurt someone else because of not being able to brake in time, what would OSHA say about my brakes?

The other issue is that when I shift the Power Reverser the transmission shifts violently. I'm usually in 4wd on snow or ice lately, which has hopefully reduced the risk of damaging the tractor. It doesn't seem to make a difference if I'm shifting from neutral to forward of forward to reverse, every shift makes the entire machine shudder. Earlier this week, the dealer sent a technician down to re-calibrate the transmission. He said he got the transmission oil temp up to 160 degrees and then monitored and re-set whatever he needed to do with his laptop computer, At this point, I seem to be getting smooth shifts from reverse to forward bur when I shift from forward or neutral to reverse it still shifts violently. Yesterday the service manager said I'm causing the problem by using the clutch when I stop. He said I should be shifting to neutral and using the brakes without the clutch, only to use the clutch when starting out. I know that's not correct. Even the manual tells you to use the clutch when braking. How else would you load a dump truck for example? You wouldn't just get up a head of steam and coast up to it in neutral... The service mechanics and the manual seem to disagree on a lot of points. The dealer says it's a wet clutch and doesn't wear when you "ride it." The manual says not to ride it. The manual also says to come to a complete stop before shifting the Power Reverser. That's not how it was sold to me; The brochure, the salesman and Deere's video on the 5000e all said you can shift the Power Reverser at any speed. Here's mu question for you guys: I found an option in the owner's manual on page 50-7. It's called the Infinitely variable Shuttle. The service manager had never heard of it and it was never offered to me by the salesman or in the online configuring page on the Deere website. Do you guys know whether or not this device might solve my problem, if so, why would anyone get a Power Reverser tractor without it. This option sounds a lot like the Motion-Match feature I have on my eHydro tractor, not exactly, but similar.

I will say, if this tractor can be straightened-out, it will be exactly the tractor I need. The size, power, maneuverability, comfort of the cab all combine to make it exactly what I was looking for. Plus it's a Tier-2 model. At this point however, it's not comfortable to operate and it's not safe. As I said above, I'm not comfortable letting anyone else operate it and at this rate it's going to damage itself and hurt somebody or something eventually. For now I'm just using it to push snow on slippery ground and away from people and other vehicles and buildings...

Ya the powereverser is not violent on mine. I don't necessarily let the tractor come to a complete stop but close. I drop it out of F/R into neutral and let it coast almost to a stop then change direction. The clutch seems to be for precision work for me as it is the only time I go for it (i.e. getting the box blade within 2" of a tree,etc) I see that option in the manual and it sounds cool but I would need to see how it works, I didn't even know about it myself.

I also haven't noticed anything with the brakes but I will pay more attention to them today and see.

 

[sixdogs]

Let me tell you my brake story. I have a 5520, which is similar to yours and after years of working great, the pedal went to the floor when the tractor was warm. I couldn't figure it out and my searching led to a number of threads of the rear axles heating up on the 5000 series tractors and then the brakes failing. Apparently there are or were issues in which some had some sort of hydraulic restriction that caused the rear axle to heat and the brakes to fade.

My dealer said to help him diagnose the problem by using one of those laser temperature gauges and seeing just how hot the rear axles got. Mine got hot, as did others in threads with similar problems. After much diagnosis it turns out one of my remote levers was stuck a whisker off of dead center and causing enough of a restriction to cause the axle to heat and the brakes to have a problem. It does seem a recurring issue on the 5000 series.

My point in mentioning this is to suggest you check to make sure your levers are worked and centered and to get a laser temp gauge ($24) to check the rear axles. This is probably not your problem but is on some 5000's and it always pays to look at the easy things first. Hope I'm being helpful here.

 

[LoudonNH]

Let me tell you my brake story. I have a 5520, which is similar to yours and after years of working great, the pedal went to the floor when the tractor was warm. I couldn't figure it out and my searching led to a number of threads of the rear axles heating up on the 5000 series tractors and then the brakes failing. Apparently there are or were issues in which some had some sort of hydraulic restriction that caused the rear axle to heat and the brakes to fade.

My dealer said to help him diagnose the problem by using one of those laser temperature gauges and seeing just how hot the rear axles got. Mine got hot, as did others in threads with similar problems. After much diagnosis it turns out one of my remote levers was stuck a whisker off of dead center and causing enough of a restriction to cause the axle to heat and the brakes to have a problem. It does seem a recurring issue on the 5000 series.

My point in mentioning this is to suggest you check to make sure your levers are worked and centered and to get a laser temp gauge ($24) to check the rear axles. This is probably not your problem but is on some 5000's and it always pays to look at the easy things first. Hope I'm being helpful here.

That's interesting and if this issue came up several years from now I might have try that. But right now my warranty should provide for someone else to do the exploratory surgery.

What I don't like is that nobody, including the salesman, technicians and service manager, has suggested the problem is unique to my tractor. It seems to be widely accepted that the brakes are not expected to work. At this point, I've mastered the "double-pump" to get brakes. But it's only a matter of time before I whack the side of my dump truck or smash into the back wall of my equipment shed... It's not right.

I think my dealer would take the tractor back or even replace it if I insisted. But that's not what I'm looking for at this point. I really would like to see this thing fixed. That's why I'm hanging in there. My update is that apparently a regional rep from Deere is going to be called in on this caper...