New 5055E

[LoudonNH]

Do you have to use the clutch to start out when using a power shuttle on a John Deere? Sounds like a standard shuttle not a power shuttle.

Also why would you have the hand throttle set to 1200?

I normally set the hand throttle at 12-1700 for loader work, plowing snow for example. That's what you do in order to free-up your right foot to steer with the brakes.

 

[LoudonNH]

Do you have to use the clutch to start out when using a power shuttle on a John Deere? Sounds like a standard shuttle not a power shuttle.

Also why would you have the hand throttle set to 1200?

You don't have to use the clutch to Power Shift.I was attempting to describe what happens after shifting gears, in which case you must use the clutch. And then putting the tractor in motion.

 

[Deerherd]

I normally set the hand throttle at 12-1700 for loader work, plowing snow for example. That's what you do in order to free-up your right foot to steer with the brakes.

If you are running your hand throttle at 12-17k while switching directions doing loader work I can see why your transmission didn't seem right. You may want to rethink not using your hand throttle.

How much brake steering do you really do with 4wd?

I think if you used the foot throttle, 4WD and lock your brakes together you would be much further ahead and your power shuttle would work as designed.

 

[LoudonNH]

If you are running your hand throttle at 12-17k while switching directions doing loader work I can see why your transmission didn't seem right. You may want to rethink not using your hand throttle.

How much brake steering do you really do with 4wd?

I think if you used the foot throttle, 4WD and lock your brakes together you would be much further ahead and your power shuttle would work as designed.

I appreciate your willingness to offer advice but the tractor is not functioning as it should. Two mechanics, the service manager, the salesman and I all agree about that. They're asking a Deere area rep to get involved and we're all hoping to find a solution that makes it right. The issue is not that I'm operating the tractor incorrectly or asking it to do anything I wasn't told and we don't agree it should do.

As far as how I'm using the hand throttle and brake pedals, that's just what you do to steer a tractor when the front tires don't have traction enough to steer, both 4wd and 2wd tractors, the same as you would do to steer a backhoe under the same circumstances, if you're more familiar with that. It's very useful when doing loader work, especially grading, backsliding and plowing snow.

Again, if the transmission shifted smoothly and the brakes worked on first push, all would be good.

Incidentally, since the re-calibration shifting from reverse to forward is very smooth, as should be expected. The problem remaining is only with shifting from forward to reverse; at any speed including standing still at an idle, without using the clutch or changing gears or ranges.

 

[ovrszd]

I appreciate your willingness to offer advice but the tractor is not functioning as it should. Two mechanics, the service manager, the salesman and I all agree about that. They're asking a Deere area rep to get involved and we're all hoping to find a solution that makes it right. The issue is not that I'm operating the tractor incorrectly or asking it to do anything I wasn't told and we don't agree it should do.

As far as how I'm using the hand throttle and brake pedals, that's just what you do to steer a tractor when the front tires don't have traction enough to steer, both 4wd and 2wd tractors, the same as you would do to steer a backhoe under the same circumstances, if you're more familiar with that. It's very useful when doing loader work, especially grading, backsliding and plowing snow.

Again, if the transmission shifted smoothly and the brakes worked on first push, all would be good.

Incidentally, since the re-calibration shifting from reverse to forward is very smooth, as should be expected. The problem remaining is only with shifting from forward to reverse; at any speed including standing still at an idle, without using the clutch or changing gears or ranges.

Well stated. I understand the need for the individual brakes. I've heard guys on here say they never unlock their individual brake pedals because there is never a need to brake individually. I always wonder what planet they live on?? I use my individual brakes a LOT. And when doing that I use the hand throttle just like you described. My Power Shuttle smoothly changes direction under those conditions. Definitely something wrong with your tractor. Good luck on the search and let us know how it comes out.

 

[LoudonNH]

Well stated. I understand the need for the individual brakes. I've heard guys on here say they never unlock their individual brake pedals because there is never a need to brake individually. I always wonder what planet they live on?? I use my individual brakes a LOT. And when doing that I use the hand throttle just like you described. My Power Shuttle smoothly changes direction under those conditions. Definitely something wrong with your tractor. Good luck on the search and let us know how it comes out.

Thanks Richard.

The first large tractor I owned was a Deere 410C, 1984 if I remember correctly. It was a 2wd backhoe and if you know backhoes, you know they tend to be very light in the front end. It would have been impossible to work with the loader without using the individual brake pedals to steer.

The only times I latch my pedals together nowadays is when I'm on hills hauling logs out of in the woods or before my girlfriend operates the tractors!

I hope we'll be able to sort it out.

 

[ovrszd]

Yep my Brother used to have an old 410. Drove it more with the brakes than the steering wheel.

 

[LoudonNH]

So today my dealer sent a service man down to work on the Power Shift and brakes.

Last time he was here, his laptop computer re-calibrated the transmission. This time he used his computer but did a manual re-calibration. After several hours of adjustments, we both found it to shift very smoothly; the way I always expected it to. Hopefully it stays that way.

As for the brakes, he said the information Deere has provided is that the brakes on these tractors originally had a problem with locking-up. They are now delivered with the brakes set so that there is intended to be 3 1/2" of pedal movement on first application and then 2 1/2" of pedal movement on the second and subsequent applications, until you wait approx 20 seconds to apply again, at which point you get 3 1/2" of travel again...

My pedals go about 3 1/2" on the first application but provide no brakes at all. On the second and additional applications I get about 1" of travel and brakes. If I don't apply the brakes again after about 5 seconds, the pedals go right to the floor with no brakes.

Brett, I'd like to take you up on your offer to talk with your dealer's man that was able to correct this problem on your previous 5055e.

That's all for now...

David

The service man said they will open a "D-TECH." Apparently that means they'll send the problem to John Deere.

 

[ovrszd]

In the lawsuit World we live in it amazes me that a company like Deere is willing to market a tractor that has no brakes on first application!!!! Am I the only one that thinks that is unacceptable??? :confused3:

I work in steep timber terrain a LOT. Regardless of paint color, I would not accept that. I depend on my brakes individually constantly. If my power steering didn't work I could accept that better than my brakes not working.....

 

[Sampey01]

Looks great! You definitely have more rocks than we do. Closest we have is petrified wood and a bunch of it. I'm still on the fence with the r4s. Could use the ground clearance but like how tuff they are. If only the rears where about 4-5" taller it would look better.

I'll trade you my R1's for your R4's