Whats everyone do for a living?!?

   / Whats everyone do for a living?!? #91  
Telephone Technician for 35 years, complex business stuff, no residential.

What brands do you normally work on? I was a tech for 21 years, then a sales engineer for 13 focusing on Business telephone systems. Mostly Nortel and Avaya, some Mitel
 
   / Whats everyone do for a living?!? #92  
I did 6 years in the Air Force flying refueling tankers. I'm now on my 18th year flying for an overnight package delivery company. It is fun and rewarding, but crossing multiple time zones and alternating between day/night schedules is starting to take its toll on me. Hopefully I can hang in there for another 6 years and then I can do some real tractoring!
 
   / Whats everyone do for a living?!? #93  
But I'm not one of those "head in the clouds" engineers that has no idea how what I do actually works in the real world. I actually start up most of the systems that I write code for. When you have to suffer through the programming of your own doing and have to make it work you get a lot better quickly. It also doesn't hurt to work in an organization that has several "been there, done that" engineers that you can learn from and ask questions.

I don't know what machinery you're doing PLC programming for, but from learning over the years it never hurts to have plenty of timers whether you're buffering an input signal, delay starting something, or delay turning something off. You can always type in a different number and change the time and not have to make a program change on the spot.

Various MFG equipment as well as robots. I dont do any of the programming. Our "engineers" do that. What we as maint. mostly is use it as diagnostic tools. And sometimes make small tweaks to pressure inputs, or timers. The beef I have in our facility is lack of labeling and lack of prints. Its easy to watch the program and see that I:2/06 is not being made. What the heck is that? No print in panel cabinet and no label on PLC. Not all of them are like that. Some of the programs are better labeled and some panels have current prints. But with hundreds of panels and hundreds of programs through out the facility, it can be a PITA at times. And no point in complaining about lack of prints. The answer we get from the eng. dept is.....its all on the shared drive, just look it up:laughing:

Well, in the interest of trying to not create excessive downtime, it would be handy to have a print right there. And not have to go to a computer (which does little good unless its right there with you). OR go to the shop and get the laptop. Not to mention just trying to find the print. Ever go through a "shared" drive on a large companies computers. Folders and folders, layers upon layers. It You can spend an hour and maybe not even find what you are looking for.

Yeah, I think I remember you starting a thread years ago about the box plant... if I remember correctly I went through the same (Weyerhaeuser-IP) but I was "fortunate" enough to keep my job. Well, turns out maybe you were the fortunate one as it seems you have made the best of it.

Yep. That was me. Weyerhaeuser/IP deal got me. Was your plan also an IP plant?

Weyerhaeuser had this business model that we were the "hub" plant. (Mt Vernon OH). Since we could make boxes cheaper than other plants in the area. So they turned that plant into a 24/7 operation and if business was soft, we didnt suffer as they would pull business from other plants to keep us going. IP's model was everyone for themselves. So the business that was being brought in to keep us 24/7 went out the window. And ultimately down to M-F 3-shift.

Dad still works maintenance out there, but not nearly as good of a company to work for as Weyerhaeuser was. Some of the things Weyerhaeuser did was: Can only force saturdays, not sundays. Double time sunday or anything over 48, double time for holidays. IP forced a contract change and can now force 7-days, and no double time at all for sundays or holidays. And then a whole list of other things that just make people dislike working there. Changes to vacation scheduling and number of people allowed off makes it hard to get days you want. Not to mention during the busy season (pretty much april-sept), they are running 6 days a week. And they have the workforce structured so thin if anyone goes on vacation, that means 2 people will be working 12hrs that day or week. So a good portion of the workforce there works 6 12hr days a week just about all summer long.

Yea, I think ultimatly I ended up in a better place. Not sure if other IP facilities are that way. But the people I used to work with that are still there hate the place.
 
   / Whats everyone do for a living?!? #94  
Neuropathologist - I look at people's brains to see what is inside.
 
   / Whats everyone do for a living?!? #95  
Various MFG equipment as well as robots. I dont do any of the programming. Our "engineers" do that. What we as maint. mostly is use it as diagnostic tools. And sometimes make small tweaks to pressure inputs, or timers. The beef I have in our facility is lack of labeling and lack of prints. Its easy to watch the program and see that I:2/06 is not being made. What the heck is that? No print in panel cabinet and no label on PLC. Not all of them are like that. Some of the programs are better labeled and some panels have current prints. But with hundreds of panels and hundreds of programs through out the facility, it can be a PITA at times. And no point in complaining about lack of prints. The answer we get from the eng. dept is.....its all on the shared drive, just look it up:laughing:

Well, in the interest of trying to not create excessive downtime, it would be handy to have a print right there. And not have to go to a computer (which does little good unless its right there with you). OR go to the shop and get the laptop. Not to mention just trying to find the print. Ever go through a "shared" drive on a large companies computers. Folders and folders, layers upon layers. It You can spend an hour and maybe not even find what you are looking for.

Yep. That was me. Weyerhaeuser/IP deal got me. Was your plan also an IP plant?

Weyerhaeuser had this business model that we were the "hub" plant. (Mt Vernon OH). Since we could make boxes cheaper than other plants in the area. So they turned that plant into a 24/7 operation and if business was soft, we didnt suffer as they would pull business from other plants to keep us going. IP's model was everyone for themselves. So the business that was being brought in to keep us 24/7 went out the window. And ultimately down to M-F 3-shift.

Dad still works maintenance out there, but not nearly as good of a company to work for as Weyerhaeuser was. Some of the things Weyerhaeuser did was: Can only force saturdays, not sundays. Double time sunday or anything over 48, double time for holidays. IP forced a contract change and can now force 7-days, and no double time at all for sundays or holidays. And then a whole list of other things that just make people dislike working there. Changes to vacation scheduling and number of people allowed off makes it hard to get days you want. Not to mention during the busy season (pretty much april-sept), they are running 6 days a week. And they have the workforce structured so thin if anyone goes on vacation, that means 2 people will be working 12hrs that day or week. So a good portion of the workforce there works 6 12hr days a week just about all summer long.

Yea, I think ultimatly I ended up in a better place. Not sure if other IP facilities are that way. But the people I used to work with that are still there hate the place.

I could have almost written this post word for word. The first part describes my job pretty well...especially the complaints about prints and labeling :laughing:

The second part describes my company well. Yes, we were Weyerhaeuser but the takeover was like 2 years after I started so I didn't have a great "feel" for the company yet, but I will say that the changes IP made were all for the worse... right down to losing the double time. The pay is alright and I get a lot of overtime so it makes for a decent yearly salary given my "credentials" on paper.
 
   / Whats everyone do for a living?!? #96  
So, from the beginning?

Start out in sixth grade working at a gas station when the owner broke his hip. Worked the next three years at the local rural airport tearing down and rebuilding aircraft generators, starters and alternators which we shipped all over the world.

In highschool and college, in radio doing news and disc-jockey back when we still had "discs" to jockey, lol.
Out of college, for the US Senate (Adm. Jeremiah Denton at the time), then the local county government as an administrator.
In 1994, I started my own business in graphics and printing, been holding steady here since then.

I've never had a job I didn't like... always been fun and always something I looked forward to each day.
 
   / Whats everyone do for a living?!? #99  
25yrs as an engineer at a large diversified mfg company.
 
   / Whats everyone do for a living?!? #100  
36 yrs with Canadian National rail as a brakeman,conductor retired now!
 

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