Legal to open carry a pistol on a bicycle in your state?

[IslandTractor]

> So no, I don't think our laws are too restrictive. Frankly, I think more training should be required before one is allowed to carry a weapon in public places.

Again, autos driven by licensed drivers kill far more people.

Seriously, you are comparing MVAs to shootings? And implying that gun deaths are not a big deal because "more people are killed by automobiles"????

I obviously am not in favor of arming cyclists. We don't need more guns floating around, falling out of purses, being grabbed and fired by young children or being used "to make a point". And please, stop with the inane "women should be able to choose" baloney. Do you also believe they should be able to choose what to do with their bodies or do you put limits on those rights when they conflict with your beliefs?

We've had three or four children and at least one mother killed in the past couple of months by handguns their parents did not properly secure. Those guns really did a great job protecting the family eh? How many cycling women's lives have been taken in that same period? Zero as best I can tell. So exactly who is going to be protected by bringing more guns into play? Before advocating for more guns on the roads, how about some data that might support such a recommendation.

 

[Tollster]

Here are the facts you requested... Keep in mind, facts are just facts though, they do not in any way reflect reality in a liberals mind..
http://crimepreventionresearchcente...y-Permit-Holders-Across-the-United-States.pdf

Crime Trends in California (PPIC Publication)

Chicago crime rate drops as concealed carry gun permit applications surge - Washington Times

This one you will likely claim is bias because of the webpage title, that is the primary reason I put the three non bias ones (?) at the top, we have heard your excuses far too long, if you don't like fire arms, don't buy one, its called the bill of rights and not the bill of needs.

CA Handgun Sales Skyrocket, Gun-Related Homicides Plummet - Tea Party News

Remember, these are only facts...LMAO

 

[IslandTractor]

Here are the facts you requested... Keep in mind, facts are just facts though, they do not in any way reflect reality in a liberals mind.. http://crimepreventionresearchcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Concealed-Carry-Permit-Holders-Across-the-United-States.pdf Crime Trends in California (PPIC Publication) Chicago crime rate drops as concealed carry gun permit applications surge - Washington Times This one you will likely claim is bias because of the webpage title, that is the primary reason I put the three non bias ones (?) at the top, we have heard your excuses far too long, if you don't like fire arms, don't buy one, its called the bill of rights and not the bill of needs. CA Handgun Sales Skyrocket, Gun-Related Homicides Plummet - Tea Party News Remember, these are only facts...LMAO

The data you link is from pretty biased sources. Washington Times hasn't published an unbiased article in years. Teaparty.org is, I am sure you will be shocked to hear, not a reliable or unbiased news source. I'm also guessing the crimepreventionresearchcenter.org is a NRA funded mouthpiece too. It isn't an independent research organization, just a blog site. How can any organization with Ted Nugent on the board of directors be taken seriously? How can one take seriously an organization with its main office in a suburban home? Check google for 212 Layfayette Ave. Swarthmore PA 19081. Love the house, BS organization. Do you guys EVER check your sources before you post links and swallow their message?

Homicide rates in the USA fell steadily over the past century, long before concealed carry became legal or popular. There was a bump up in homicide starting in the early 1960's which has fallen in the past couple of decades. There were many reasons for both the upswing and decline. Concealed carry is not one of them although it did become more popular in recent years. One could as easily argue that Obama was responsible for decreasing homicide rates as those rates have fallen steadily since he became a politician. Association does not equal causation. Statistics and Epidemiology for Dummies 101. Of course detailed studies of gun violence by trained epidemiologists are not available thanks to a NRA written law passed by Congress in 1996 forbidding CDC from studying the issue.

If CC is so critical to lowering homicide, then please explain why states such as Hawaii have both very low CC and homicide while states like Alabama and Indiana have high CC and high homicide. Why does Rhode Island, with one third the rate of gun ownership as South Carolina, have half the homicide rate of SC? There really simply isn't good correlation of safety and gun ownership.

Christian Science Monitor article on the homicide rate trends: US crime rate at lowest point in decades. Why America is safer now. - CSMonitor.com

By the way, a Google search for women raped while bicycling turns up zero hits for USA. One well publicized event last year in India. And, one incident where a disabled 13 yo girl was lured off her bike and then gang raped in Georgia.

 

[Tollster]

Island tractor, sorry, there is no help for you.

 

[IslandTractor]

Island tractor, sorry, there is no help for you.

What a clever and intelligent retort. Apparently, critical thinking isn't one of your strengths.

Go back to seeing the world through Ted Nugent's addled brain. Have fun.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

What a clever and intelligent retort. Apparently, critical thinking isn't one of your strengths.

Go back to seeing the world through Ted Nugent's addled brain. Have fun.

PLEASE stay in RI, the last thing I would want is a neighbor who thinks like you!

I own a lot of firearms, as did my father. NONE of them has ever shot another human being, not even one! The reason for that is, "firearms training".... We were taught "safe gun handling" from the time we were kids, as are the kids in this family now...

Sounds like you could use some of that in YOUR neighborhood!!

SR

BTW, all of my neighbors have firearms too....no ones been shot in MY neighbor hood...

 

[murphy1244]

Everyone should take a time out or we are going to lose this thread.

 

[IslandTractor]

PLEASE stay in RI, the last thing I would want is a neighbor who thinks like you! I own a lot of firearms, as did my father. NONE of them has ever shot another human being, not even one! The reason for that is, "firearms training".... We were taught "safe gun handling" from the time we were kids, as are the kids in this family now... Sounds like you could use some of that in YOUR neighborhood!! SR BTW, all of my neighbors have firearms too....no ones been shot in MY neighbor hood...

Hey, guess what, nobody has been shot in my neighborhood either!!! I guess what that proves is that neither of us lives in a high crime area.

I have no beef at all with hunting and sports shooting. I do have a problem with all the "make my day" macho BS that Clint wannabes spew forth.

As I noted earlier, there appear to be either zero or close to zero reported incidents of bicyclists being murdered or raped in the USA in the recent past. If there is no problem then why carry a weapon? Do you arm yourself before going to your basement or garage? Lots more episodes of people surprising robbers like that than while on a bike.

 

[JDgreen227]

Hey, guess what, nobody has been shot in my neighborhood either!!! I guess what that proves is that neither of us lives in a high crime area.

I have no beef at all with hunting and sports shooting. I do have a problem with all the "make my day" macho BS that Clint wannabes spew forth.

As I noted earlier, there appear to be either zero or close to zero reported incidents of bicyclists being murdered or raped in the USA in the recent past. If there is no problem then why carry a weapon? Do you arm yourself before going to your basement or garage? Lots more episodes of people surprising robbers like that than while on a bike.

OP here...did you know that the vast majority of rapes are never reported?

 

[IslandTractor]

OP here...did you know that the vast majority of rapes are never reported?

Yep. And if there were reports of 50/yr I could easily accept that 500/yr was closer to the truth. But, I cannot find a report of even one so it seems to be an extremely rare event.