what on earth does electricity cost near you?

[jix]

water power (hydro), nuclear power, tidal power, political hot air...would be my guesses

:cool2:

 

[txdon]

Where does that green power come from at night when the wind is not blowing?

A few years ago Austin elec. was offering good rebates on solar panels and an electricity buy back program. I asked our co-op if they had any rebates to offer like Austin and the above was their response. They also said I would have to install an outgoing meter - with an added monthly charge of $22.50 and they would only give me a fraction of what I pay for electricity for a reverse flow. They are anti-green. So my solar plans were squashed.
Our electric comes from coal. Which is open mined about 20 miles away. My house is all electric my bill is about $100 a month and goes up to $150 in the extreme months.

Our monthly charge is $22.50 plus $0.028509 per kWh

 

[vtsnowedin]

$0.22 per KWH

 

[buickanddeere]

A few years ago Austin elec. was offering good rebates on solar panels and an electricity buy back program. I asked our co-op if they had any rebates to offer like Austin and the above was their response. They also said I would have to install an outgoing meter - with an added monthly charge of $22.50 and they would only give me a fraction of what I pay for electricity for a reverse flow. They are anti-green. So my solar plans were squashed.
Our electric comes from coal. Which is open mined about 20 miles away. My house is all electric my bill is about $100 a month and goes up to $150 in the extreme months.

Our monthly charge is $22.50 plus $0.028509 per kWh

Our rates have gone up since the province decided that the rate and tax payer should subsidize green power with rates far above what nuclear, coal and hydroelectric produced at between 3 to 7 cents per Kw hr. Now wind at 13.5 cents, natural gas at 16.5 cents and solar at 39.5-80.2 cents can generate anytime including off peak and be paid their rates. There are times when hydro electric and nuclear are paid zero or have to pay to dump power into the power grid while green is paid. The rate payer spent over a billion paying penalties to give surplus power to
Michigan and new York states.
My last three power bills have been over $800 a month for just a house and small barn. Mid season between winter heat and summer AC is $300 plus.

 

[jix]

Buick and Deere..That sounds like the result of a gov fiasco to me. I cannot remember the details but I can recall that there wa a problem tht involved the govt building a gas fired electic generation plant that was then cancelled, or something of the sort. I can also remember that there was a period when Ontario power could not meet demand. Memory not very clear, but I think the govnt has change3d since then. At any rate it sure sounds like a quite excessive cost.. 80 cents per kilowatt is way too high. You can generate your own power cheaper than that by diesel. Sounds like it is time for political activism.. Niagara Falls, 4 nuke and a gas fired genny.generators oughta be enuff bejaysus.

 

[buickanddeere]

Ontario has never run short of power even back in 2006 when we had our demand peak of 27,000MW. Before the province when Liberal who raised taxes, regulations and electrical rates. Now we can barely hit 22,000 MW. The cancelled NG turbine plants which were proposed for several liberal-conservative swing seats. For a mere 2+ billion of tax payer and rate payer dollars, the NG plant contracts were paid out and cancelled. The liberals won four extra seats and the majority government. They just finished getting caught red handed bribing officials to win a by election seat. Now they are getting away with it.

 

[JerryK]

When anyone says that ANY technology has plateaued and can go no farther, I also think of the time the City of Dallas bought 2 IBM 360 computers in the early '70s and the experts assured us that would be all the computer the city would ever need.:laughing:[/QUOTE,

Your phone probably has more capability than that old iron 360. Back in the late 70's I was writing programs that had to fit into 8k of ram. Anything larger had to be written to disk and swapped back and forth. The DEC PDP-8 was the size of a regular refrigerator, and had a disk pack next to it that was almost as large.

I used to repair Dec computers, way before the 11/34 came out. Went to that school, too. Last Dec school I went to was for Vax's. Got an early Motorola 6800 in a blister pack. Came with CPU, 256 byte ROM, a parallel chip, a serial chip, and I think a clock chip that you had to hook up the right crystal to so the baud rates would be right.... All the chips were ceramic with the gold leads that stuck out like bug legs, and had to procure wire wrap sockets... then design and wire wrap it to work. All by hand... all by looking at the individual chip specs... make your own prints/circuit design/etc.... Write your own code to fill the 256 byte [ not K byte ] memory.... all by long hand... figure all your jumps by hand... nothing but a lot of sleepless nights. But heck, it worked when I got it done. Built a little metal box we could cart around to test out teletypes and Dec terminals. Had a 20ma and RS-232 com... Durn thing would spit out " The quick brown fox... " or " Now is the time for all good men to ..." all the way up to a speeding 9600 baud.. with either one or two stop bits... Again, all by hand.... all by me.... and some books. Probably worn the cover off one or two Texas Instruments chip books, too... Way back, in a galaxy, long long ago.....

 

[3930dave]

As Randy Bachman sang "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet".

60% sell-off of Hydro One would drive up bills: PCs | Ontario | News | Toronto S

Provincial utility debt is at 27B, and they'll use the sale proceeds for something else ?

Just goes to prove..... Nothing wrong with criminal activity, so long as it's big enough.

Rgds, D.

 

[tjcarguy]

47 $ per month is the charge on my bill for zero usage --- Trevor

 

[3930dave]

Rates go up again May 01. Between CapNTrade and this, should take care of the few remaining manufacturing plants left in Ontario. Peak power is reported as going to 16.1 cents/kWh.

Hydro zapping customers with May 1 increase | Ontario | News | Toronto Sun

When you see quotes like this, it is tempting to dismiss it as bafflegab from loons.....

Premier Kathleen Wynne said the new on-peak/off-peak rate differential should encourage conservation which ultimately helps keep bills down.

"The increase that the OEB announced today is not as high as it was projected to be in our long-term energy plan, Wynne said. "Everything that we are doing in terms of energy prices is an attempt to put that downward pressure on them."

..... but their script is playing out well. Once the majority of ON power is controlled by the private sector, then the prov. govt. can distance themselves from future price increases/scams.

Agenda fulfilled, blame deflected, and new properties acquired in Belize.

Next on my research list... rated Operating Hours on NatGas generators....

Rgds, D.