Brakes again?

   / Brakes again? #11  
If the parking brake is on.
You can get off the seat with tractor running without the beeper going off. If you don't set the brake and get off the beeper will sound to remind you.
Tractor running, sitting on seat and step on HST pedal with parking brake on the beeper will go off to remind you to release the brake.
Tractor running, not sitting on seat, step on HST pedal from along side, tractor should shut off. (Safety so the tractor won't run over you if you push the pedal will standing along side of the tractor)
Tractor running, brake is set and PTO is on and you leave the seat, beeper will sound to remind you PTO is on.

Based on your last post you mention a Previous Owner. Is it possible the PO bypassed one or more of the safety switches.
(especially the annoying parking brake beeper switch) If he did there is a possibility that it was driven with the brakes on and it wore out the brake friction pads which is why they don't hold now.
 
   / Brakes again? #12  
HST should still hold on a small incline as described. I would start with that as continual use could lead to further driveline issues. Also keep in mind they are manual brakes (not like the power assist brakes in a car or truck) and it does take a lot of pressure on the pedals to hold such a massive weight.
 
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   / Brakes again? #13  
I believe he bought that tractor new. The new owner is the new owner of the dealership and the old owner was bought out.
 
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#14  
S219: Most of the time I only use the hydraulic forward pedal to start the tractor rolling or stop it. Very few times have I had enough time to depress the brake pedals. It's the same way for my JD 322 - it's hydraulic too.

I really haven't had much rolling seat time on this tractor. Most of the hours on it are from using the backhoe to dig up stumps. Obviously, the tractor is stationary and in a different situation.
 
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#15  
I believe he bought that tractor new. The new owner is the new owner of the dealership and the old owner was bought out.

Ozley is correct. I bought my tractor from a different dealership owner, who sold the dealership to the new owner I'm now working with.
 
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#16  
Beginning: This is a brand new tractor I bought from a new LS dealership that the dealership was then sold to another owner. Hope that isn't too confusing.

If the parking brake is on.
You can get off the seat with tractor running without the beeper going off. If you don't set the brake and get off the beeper will sound to remind you.

*That part works.*

Tractor running, sitting on seat and step on HST pedal with parking brake on the beeper will go off to remind you to release the brake.
*That part works.*

Tractor running, not sitting on seat, step on HST pedal from along side, tractor should shut off. (Safety so the tractor won't run over you if you push the pedal will standing along side of the tractor)

*Haven't tried that part yet.*

Tractor running, brake is set and PTO is on and you leave the seat, beeper will sound to remind you PTO is on.

*Haven't had the opportunity to use the PTO yet due to digging up stumps with the backhoe.*

Update: I spoke with the new dealership owner last night. I explained what was happening. He told me he would pick up the tractor again today and get it worked on by an in house tractor mechanic. He said they would make sure it was repaired this time. We'll see.

He also told me the blue and green knobs had not come in yet, but he assured me they would be replaced.

Again, we shall see.

Someone mentioned contacting LS. Is this the company located in Battleboro, NC? I visited the plant last year, and that was the primary reason I bought an LS.

I really hope I can get these issues worked out. Deep down I think the LS is a good tractor. Other wise, why would so many of you that have them have so few problems?

BTW, I did spend a lot of hours reading all the manuals for my tractor. There is a lot of hidden information buried in them. This is my first tractor if this type and size, so I wanted to learn all I could about it ahead of time.

Once you've started into an accident, it's too late to pick up the manual to find out you've done something wrong.
 
   / Brakes again? #17  
No need to contact LS as I mentioned earlier. Seems like your dealer is doing his best to help you get it fixed.
I did re-read your post about your dealership now having a new owner. I mis read it the first time. No problems with mine yet but only have 75 hours on the clock. My Woods BH is driven by a PTO pump That's how I know about the beeper going off when you leave the seat with the PTO on.
My selling dealer is no longer an LS dealer. I was contacted by LS and referred to another dealer. Also got my parts manual on CD from them before they were put online for downloads. LS also sent me the loader manual which the selling dealer failed to provide to me at time of purchase.
I recall reading another post a while back from someone else with a brake not holding on a grade. Seems like their solution was to really stand hard on the brake pedal before applying the parking brake.
 
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#18  
Thanks George. Much appreciated. Though I know you have a XR3037HC, your tractor is pretty much the same as mine. Just a few more HP's and the cab option, so that's why I wanted someone with some insight to help me out. IIRC, my tractor has just under 65 hours on it now. I really haven't had the opportunity to work it hard due to regular work, rain, or other commitments.

Hard to believe come July of this year I've already had it a year. Time flies whether you're having fun or not.
 
   / Brakes again? #19  
I recall reading another post a while back from someone else with a brake not holding on a grade. Seems like their solution was to really stand hard on the brake pedal before applying the parking brake.


At this point, I think the most likely issue is that the OP isn't depressing the brake pedals hard enough before locking the lever. Any tractor will roll if that's the case.
 
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#20  
At this point, I think the most likely issue is that the OP isn't depressing the brake pedals hard enough before locking the lever. Any tractor will roll if that's the case.

How could I possibly depress the brake pedals any more? I'm using all of my 190+ lbs to push against the brake pedals. Then, at the bottom (which has about a space of around 4 inches between the backside of the pedals and floorboard), I pull up on the parking brake as hard as I can.

We're talking former wrestler (real stuff) and former high level catamaran racer (22 years) here. I've been called "Popeye" because of my forearms before.

No, that IMHO isn't the answer.
 

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