Brakes again?

whis · Apr 23, 2015

if it stalled it that means the brake was working, does parking brake lock the pedals down, if it doesn't that would seem to me that parking brake is seperate of the tractor brake pedals. you said you haven't used it much you might need to read manual a little more (not trying to be smart butt)

breadtrk · Apr 24, 2015

whis said:
will your tractor roll if you keep your foot on the pedals? or only after you pull up the brake lever

My 220 lbs won't make it hold on a grade, never has. Parking brake or not, it will roll unless I engage the bucket with the ground or plant whatever is on the 3 point. Almost a year old and 230 hrs. mine was brand new, I backed it out of the 18 wheeler the dealer got it on. I have never driven with the brake on, the Beeper would have made me insane if I had tried.

whis · Apr 25, 2015

breadtrk said:
My 220 lbs won't make it hold on a grade, never has. Parking brake or not, it will roll unless I engage the bucket with the ground or plant whatever is on the 3 point. Almost a year old and 230 hrs. mine was brand new, I backed it out of the 18 wheeler the dealer got it on. I have never driven with the brake on, the Beeper would have made me insane if I had tried.

I would make my dealer replace my brakes

George2615 · Apr 25, 2015

Your tractor should hold on a grade with just the brakes alone. I just drove mine on my trailer, left it running, put the HST in neutral and pushed the brake pedals down, set the parking brake and got out and took the pics. That's at least a 10 degree angle.
It would even hold better if I did the above plus put it in 4wd, low range on HST and shut it off.
If yours won't hold on a grade like mine, your brakes need adjustment or brake discs need to be replaced. Since it's new it should all be covered under warranty.

Underdog57 · Apr 25, 2015

Nice demonstration George....very well done......picture definitely worth a thousand words!!! :thumbsup:

windcatcher · Apr 27, 2015

Bit of an update: I was able to talk in person to both the new dealership owner, and his new in house tractor mechanic. They said they have adjusted the parking brake cables out to the end of the adjustment.

They tried the tractor on the slopes (if you can call them that), and it finally held on all but one that had a pretty good slope to it. This was all in reverse.

They have talked to LS and LS says that because I have the backhoe, it is putting more stress on the brakes than what it was designed for. You heard that right.

It was suggested that if I'm going to use the tractor where it needs to be parked on a greater slope than what the brakes can hold on, to put the out riggers down and set the back hoe bucket so it can't move backwards. :thumbdown:

Now, how's that for an explanation? No, there wasn't anything wrong with my operation of the tractor at all. It would still roll backwards with two different drivers when I was at work and couldn't possibly be driving.

Yeah, I'll get around to rereading the owner's manual during the Fall, but right now it's Spring and I need as much seat time I can get to get caught back up.

Question for you other tractor brand owners: Do you have a FEL & backhoe, and can you park your tractor on a slope with the backhoe facing down hill, pull up your parking brake and it hold in place?

Just wondering.

s219 · Apr 27, 2015

Something isn't right. I can tell you that on the Kubota backhoe (which is heavier than a CUT with backhoe) I rented many years ago, the brakes held fine on a hill. But the parking brake is the same as the foot brake on Kubotas, so if the parking brake wouldn't have held then the foot brake wouldn't have held either, and that is an even bigger safety problem.

If I were you, I'd at least make sure the foot brake works on a hill. If it doesn't, you have a major safety issue.

windcatcher · Apr 27, 2015

breadtrk said:
My 220 lbs won't make it hold on a grade, never has. Parking brake or not, it will roll unless I engage the bucket with the ground or plant whatever is on the 3 point. Almost a year old and 230 hrs. mine was brand new, I backed it out of the 18 wheeler the dealer got it on. I have never driven with the brake on, the Beeper would have made me insane if I had tried.

Breadtrk, I see you have the backhoe too. Maybe there is something to the backhoe adding extra weight? I'm at a loss since I've never owned or worked a tractor like this before.

windcatcher · Apr 27, 2015

S219: I agree there appears to be a problem, but you know how smoke and mirrors can be. Unfortunately, I'm only able to mess with the tractor on the weekends. This past weekend didn't help at all due to the off and on again rains we had. We do need the rain, but I sure wish it would come during the week.

jaydee325 · Apr 27, 2015

Have you talked to LS directly. From what has been said, I'm not real impressed by your dealer.

I find it hard to believe that LS would sell a tractor that does not have brakes enough for any configuration offered. It is a safety issue.

LS contact info is on their website.

windcatcher said:
S219: I agree there appears to be a problem, but you know how smoke and mirrors can be. Unfortunately, I'm only able to mess with the tractor on the weekends. This past weekend didn't help at all due to the off and on again rains we had. We do need the rain, but I sure wish it would come during the week.