CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours

   / CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #201  
A dealer giving labour at cost is a stretch, in my opinion. Never heard of such a thing. Besides, if that job takes their people away from other paying projects, it's not really at cost for them. Hope for a favourable outcome here.
 
   / CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours
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   / CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #203  
Did the dealer give you any idea how long to expect. Seems like they could keep you posted, would think that would build faith in them? Good luck
 
   / CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #204  
It's been five full business days (tractor went back in a week ago today). Haven't heard from the dealer yet.
call corporate and tell them you want a loaner as you feel this is not neglect on your part but assembly or part defect

dealer is going to sit on this until one of there mechanics has time
that just doesn't happen this time of year
 
   / CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #205  
It's been five full business days (tractor went back in a week ago today). Haven't heard from the dealer yet.
call corporate and tell them you want a loaner as you feel this is not neglect on your part but assembly or part defect

dealer is going to sit on this until one of there mechanics has time
that just doesn't happen this time of year
 
   / CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours
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#206  
Thanks everybody for your concern and interest.

Yesterday I was contacted by Kioti customer service via email and also had a phone call from the dealership. Here's the news.

Apparently this matter went all the way back to Daedong in Korea. After careful review, they have decided to replace this engine with a new one, supposedly shipping from the US office in North Carolina, but that's not confirmed. It might have to be sent overseas from Korea. Not sure yet which is correct. Daedong has also stipulated that the dealer will provide the labor for the engine swap. From what I have gleaned through this process, it's my understanding that each dealership is annually rewarded by Kioti with "goodwill" dollars, earned by meeting sales quotas and whatnot. That money is reserved for cases like mine, when they need to pay their own mechanics for this type of in-house work. So, the dealer isn't really out anything here because Kioti provides a kind of safety net through the earned goodwill money. Maybe this is a common practice for all manufacturers; I don't know.

Obviously it's still going to take some time before the CK35 is ready to come home, but you can imagine what a huge relief this is for me. Those of you on this forum who urged me to contact Kioti, and to go back to the dealer, are the ones who are directly responsible for securing this very fortunate turn of events for me. I can't begin to thank you enough. In the beginning when I started this thread, I was ready to write off this tractor and recover what little money out of it that I could get from its broken condition. You folks convinced me to pursue it further. Everything changed in a few hours one afternoon when I spoke to Melissa at Kioti and then drove back to the dealership with hat in hand. That part wasn't easy... I had fired them for ignoring me for eighteen days, and then I had to go back and re-hire them. But, it certainly paid off to do so.

Once again, many thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion, especially a few key folks here who offered some seriously good advice -- you know who you are. There's still more to follow regarding this issue... if I can figure out how to do it, I'll upload some video of the tractor running before it was diagnosed (before I knew how bad it was) to demonstrate what it sounded like, on the slim outside chance that anyone else ever suffers this problem. Meanwhile, those of you who speculated that Kioti would acquit themselves nicely and take the high road by providing out-of-warranty support were absolutely right, as were those of you who called for engine replacement. I did not expect and certainly could not have asked for a better outcome from Kioti.

Thanks Kioti and especially all you TBN folks.
 
   / CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #207  
Whoo hoo! Great work documenting everything and staying calm throughout the process. Karma came through.
 
   / CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #208  
Thanks everybody for your concern and interest.

Yesterday I was contacted by Kioti customer service via email and also had a phone call from the dealership. Here's the news.

Apparently this matter went all the way back to Daedong in Korea. After careful review, they have decided to replace this engine with a new one, supposedly shipping from the US office in North Carolina, but that's not confirmed. It might have to be sent overseas from Korea. Not sure yet which is correct. Daedong has also stipulated that the dealer will provide the labor for the engine swap. From what I have gleaned through this process, it's my understanding that each dealership is annually rewarded by Kioti with "goodwill" dollars, earned by meeting sales quotas and whatnot. That money is reserved for cases like mine, when they need to pay their own mechanics for this type of in-house work. So, the dealer isn't really out anything here because Kioti provides a kind of safety net through the earned goodwill money. Maybe this is a common practice for all manufacturers; I don't know.

Obviously it's still going to take some time before the CK35 is ready to come home, but you can imagine what a huge relief this is for me. Those of you on this forum who urged me to contact Kioti, and to go back to the dealer, are the ones who are directly responsible for securing this very fortunate turn of events for me. I can't begin to thank you enough. In the beginning when I started this thread, I was ready to write off this tractor and recover what little money out of it that I could get from its broken condition. You folks convinced me to pursue it further. Everything changed in a few hours one afternoon when I spoke to Melissa at Kioti and then drove back to the dealership with hat in hand. That part wasn't easy... I had fired them for ignoring me for eighteen days, and then I had to go back and re-hire them. But, it certainly paid off to do so.

Once again, many thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion, especially a few key folks here who offered some seriously good advice -- you know who you are. There's still more to follow regarding this issue... if I can figure out how to do it, I'll upload some video of the tractor running before it was diagnosed (before I knew how bad it was) to demonstrate what it sounded like, on the slim outside chance that anyone else ever suffers this problem. Meanwhile, those of you who speculated that Kioti would acquit themselves nicely and take the high road were absolutely right, as were those of you who called for engine replacement. I did not expect and certainly could not have asked for a better outcome from Kioti.

Thanks Kioti and especially all you TBN folks.

Congratulations! Told you not to give up. Remember back when you first posted? Still want to sell it for scrap? BTW, Kioti just earned a fan from a Ford owner.
 
   / CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #209  
This is great news for all Kioti owners!!! Hopefully you will be back in the saddle soon.
 
   / CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #210  
GREAT NEWS, this speaks volumes for Kioti :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

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