CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours

/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #201  
A dealer giving labour at cost is a stretch, in my opinion. Never heard of such a thing. Besides, if that job takes their people away from other paying projects, it's not really at cost for them. Hope for a favourable outcome here.
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours
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#202  
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #203  
Did the dealer give you any idea how long to expect. Seems like they could keep you posted, would think that would build faith in them? Good luck
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #204  
It's been five full business days (tractor went back in a week ago today). Haven't heard from the dealer yet.
call corporate and tell them you want a loaner as you feel this is not neglect on your part but assembly or part defect

dealer is going to sit on this until one of there mechanics has time
that just doesn't happen this time of year
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #205  
It's been five full business days (tractor went back in a week ago today). Haven't heard from the dealer yet.
call corporate and tell them you want a loaner as you feel this is not neglect on your part but assembly or part defect

dealer is going to sit on this until one of there mechanics has time
that just doesn't happen this time of year
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours
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#206  
Thanks everybody for your concern and interest.

Yesterday I was contacted by Kioti customer service via email and also had a phone call from the dealership. Here's the news.

Apparently this matter went all the way back to Daedong in Korea. After careful review, they have decided to replace this engine with a new one, supposedly shipping from the US office in North Carolina, but that's not confirmed. It might have to be sent overseas from Korea. Not sure yet which is correct. Daedong has also stipulated that the dealer will provide the labor for the engine swap. From what I have gleaned through this process, it's my understanding that each dealership is annually rewarded by Kioti with "goodwill" dollars, earned by meeting sales quotas and whatnot. That money is reserved for cases like mine, when they need to pay their own mechanics for this type of in-house work. So, the dealer isn't really out anything here because Kioti provides a kind of safety net through the earned goodwill money. Maybe this is a common practice for all manufacturers; I don't know.

Obviously it's still going to take some time before the CK35 is ready to come home, but you can imagine what a huge relief this is for me. Those of you on this forum who urged me to contact Kioti, and to go back to the dealer, are the ones who are directly responsible for securing this very fortunate turn of events for me. I can't begin to thank you enough. In the beginning when I started this thread, I was ready to write off this tractor and recover what little money out of it that I could get from its broken condition. You folks convinced me to pursue it further. Everything changed in a few hours one afternoon when I spoke to Melissa at Kioti and then drove back to the dealership with hat in hand. That part wasn't easy... I had fired them for ignoring me for eighteen days, and then I had to go back and re-hire them. But, it certainly paid off to do so.

Once again, many thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion, especially a few key folks here who offered some seriously good advice -- you know who you are. There's still more to follow regarding this issue... if I can figure out how to do it, I'll upload some video of the tractor running before it was diagnosed (before I knew how bad it was) to demonstrate what it sounded like, on the slim outside chance that anyone else ever suffers this problem. Meanwhile, those of you who speculated that Kioti would acquit themselves nicely and take the high road by providing out-of-warranty support were absolutely right, as were those of you who called for engine replacement. I did not expect and certainly could not have asked for a better outcome from Kioti.

Thanks Kioti and especially all you TBN folks.
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #207  
Whoo hoo! Great work documenting everything and staying calm throughout the process. Karma came through.
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #208  
Thanks everybody for your concern and interest.

Yesterday I was contacted by Kioti customer service via email and also had a phone call from the dealership. Here's the news.

Apparently this matter went all the way back to Daedong in Korea. After careful review, they have decided to replace this engine with a new one, supposedly shipping from the US office in North Carolina, but that's not confirmed. It might have to be sent overseas from Korea. Not sure yet which is correct. Daedong has also stipulated that the dealer will provide the labor for the engine swap. From what I have gleaned through this process, it's my understanding that each dealership is annually rewarded by Kioti with "goodwill" dollars, earned by meeting sales quotas and whatnot. That money is reserved for cases like mine, when they need to pay their own mechanics for this type of in-house work. So, the dealer isn't really out anything here because Kioti provides a kind of safety net through the earned goodwill money. Maybe this is a common practice for all manufacturers; I don't know.

Obviously it's still going to take some time before the CK35 is ready to come home, but you can imagine what a huge relief this is for me. Those of you on this forum who urged me to contact Kioti, and to go back to the dealer, are the ones who are directly responsible for securing this very fortunate turn of events for me. I can't begin to thank you enough. In the beginning when I started this thread, I was ready to write off this tractor and recover what little money out of it that I could get from its broken condition. You folks convinced me to pursue it further. Everything changed in a few hours one afternoon when I spoke to Melissa at Kioti and then drove back to the dealership with hat in hand. That part wasn't easy... I had fired them for ignoring me for eighteen days, and then I had to go back and re-hire them. But, it certainly paid off to do so.

Once again, many thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion, especially a few key folks here who offered some seriously good advice -- you know who you are. There's still more to follow regarding this issue... if I can figure out how to do it, I'll upload some video of the tractor running before it was diagnosed (before I knew how bad it was) to demonstrate what it sounded like, on the slim outside chance that anyone else ever suffers this problem. Meanwhile, those of you who speculated that Kioti would acquit themselves nicely and take the high road were absolutely right, as were those of you who called for engine replacement. I did not expect and certainly could not have asked for a better outcome from Kioti.

Thanks Kioti and especially all you TBN folks.

Congratulations! Told you not to give up. Remember back when you first posted? Still want to sell it for scrap? BTW, Kioti just earned a fan from a Ford owner.
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #209  
This is great news for all Kioti owners!!! Hopefully you will be back in the saddle soon.
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #210  
GREAT NEWS, this speaks volumes for Kioti :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #212  
Awesome:thumbsup:

Kioti can be a pain to get through to, but once you do, they often do the right thing. Good job by Kioti and the OP for seeing it through.
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #214  
Glad to hear the good news, and thumbs up for Kioti for looking at the incident and then taking action.
Don't forget to tell your neighbor. I'm sure he will be hugely relieved also.
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #216  
Very nice:thumbsup:
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #217  
Great news and WAY TO GO KIOTI !!!!!Nice to see you stand behind your product.
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #218  
EXCELLENT outcome! Wow. Cen Tex Chris, you rock. You did what needed to be done, in all the right ways and as a result of your willingness to approach your dealer, hat in hand, as you said, they realized they needed to do for you what is being done. And Kioti corporate and Daedong also are providing the best outcome for all involved- especially you.

I wanted to wish for a replacement engine for your tractor, but felt that might be too much to ask for considering, the off warranty part of this saga. Fortunately Kioti concluded on their own the engine would be the best solution to this problem. Overall you are one lucky guy, and Kioti is still a great company, now and going forward. I'm impressed overall.:thumbsup:
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #219  
Good news! Great to hear that they are stepping up! My friend has been hesitant to take the plunge and buy a New Kioti to replace his NH after he read this thread. He doesn't post but he reads everyday now for the past 6 months while he shopped. My guess is that Kioti just got themselves a new customer with this news and it sure does give me a good feeling about my choice as well.
 
/ CK35 HST shattered piston at 400 hours #220  
Great news, very happy for you. Proud to be a Kioti customer. Best results you, (we all) could have wanted.
 

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