Help...shoudnt the tires spin ???

   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #11  
YES.. Hydro transmissions have a relief valve. If you are in a higher range and come up against an immovable object (like a big tree) the pressure will build in the hydro pump section until the Pressure relief valve opens. With a gear transmission either the tires will spin, or if traction is good, the engine will just bog down and die. If you are in Low range most hydro systems will spin the tires, unless traction is extremely good, for instance on rough concrete or something like that, then the PRV could still open even in LOW range. .
Maybe on a Kioti.dde04dde04 I have yet to find a surface my Kubota can't spin on including pavement and concrete.[/QUOTE]



What size? Hydrostatic drive? I know on my 4041H most of the time I have enough traction where I can't spine the tires even in Low (4wd)!
 
   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #12  
A loader was never designed for this anyway. Unless you are talking about some very rotten stump, it just generally does not work, can be damaging to the loader and dangerous too.
 
   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #13  
YES.. Hydro transmissions have a relief valve. If you are in a higher range and come up against an immovable object (like a big tree) the pressure will build in the hydro pump section until the Pressure relief valve opens. With a gear transmission either the tires will spin, or if traction is good, the engine will just bog down and die. If you are in Low range most hydro systems will spin the tires, unless traction is extremely good, for instance on rough concrete or something like that, then the PRV could still open even in LOW range. .
Maybe on a Kioti.😄😄 I have yet to find a surface my Kubota can't spin on including pavement and concrete.[/QUOTE]

Cause Kubotas are too light.:laughing:
 
   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #14  
The tires will dig and spin on dry ground in low on my XR4046H Agree, ramming things to get them to move is not a great idea, tempting, but the momentum shock load can damage many things.
 
   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #15  
On these XJ 2025's high range is very high. I can mow in low range and still have plenty of pedal left to go faster if needed. As far as ramming I wouldn't, but backing up a few feet for a little extra pushing power is fine for any tractor worth its soul.
 
   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #16  
This owner said he was only pressing against a cedar stump.
 

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   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #17  
YES.. Hydro transmissions have a relief valve. If you are in a higher range and come up against an immovable object (like a big tree) the pressure will build in the hydro pump section until the Pressure relief valve opens. With a gear transmission either the tires will spin, or if traction is good, the engine will just bog down and die. If you are in Low range most hydro systems will spin the tires, unless traction is extremely good, for instance on rough concrete or something like that, then the PRV could still open even in LOW range. .
Maybe on a Kioti.😄😄 I have yet to find a surface my Kubota can't spin on including pavement and concrete.[/QUOTE]

Mine too in LO range, but I have heard of some reported on the forum (likely with PRV's set too low) that wont spin the tires under some traction circumstances. Mine wont spin the tires when in 4wd and HI range even in gravel if I push up against the immovable object. Of course the amount of ballast in the tires and the 3pt have a great bearing on this situation also.. Kubota's are lighter than Kioti's for the same size tractor in stock trim.
 
   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #18  
The tires will dig and spin on dry ground in low on my XR4046H Agree, ramming things to get them to move is not a great idea, tempting, but the momentum shock load can damage many things.

Ramming trees is a great way to get a loose or dead limb down on your head too!:eek:

I have pushed over a lot of trees in my time with the FEL, and I make it a point to never "rock" a tree. Rocking one back and forth with much vigor can easily break off a dead limb.. Raming one is just asking for trouble from the tree dropping a limb, and possible damage to your equipment.. On large trees or anything that looks like it may have a dead limb I will string together several log chains, and pull it over. That way I am way out of harms way of falling tree. Even that has some danger.. You gotta use common sense. No ramming, no jerking, and use a big enough chain not likely to break.
 
   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #19  
Ramming trees is a great way to get a loose or dead limb down on your head too!:eek:

Yup. That's how I got my first (and only) dent in the hood, just slowly and lightly put pressure on a dead ash to aid in the felling direction, a 2' or so stub found my sheet metal!.:(
 
   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #20  
Yup. That's how I got my first (and only) dent in the hood, just slowly and lightly put pressure on a dead ash to aid in the felling direction, a 2' or so stub found my sheet metal!.:(

yep sneak up on them at just creep speed, but if any look like they have any dead on them at all, I pull them over from a great distance. I will probably make a mistake and get a limb some day, but so far I have evaded damage.
 

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