Traveller Universal Tractor/Hydraulic Fluid

[AxleHub]

Keep in mind, most hydraulic oil appears to be 10w30 also.

Don't swallow the kool-aid...

Greetings TSO,

I think anyone who reads my posts is pretty certain I'm not a kool aid kinda guy either in method, reasoning, or liquid lol.

Just for you . . While working out in the yard this afternoon . . I wore my suspenders on backwards

 

[TSO]

Greetings TSO,

I think anyone who reads my posts is pretty certain I'm not a kool aid kinda guy either in method, reasoning, or liquid lol.

Just for you . . While working out in the yard this afternoon . . I wore my suspenders on backwards

Lol...


My kid brother is a crew chief in the Air Force. Don't remember which planes he specializes in though. But ... The info he has is specific to the plane(s) he is trained on, and that knowledge is specific to what he was told by his instructors. Basically, here's the manual, follow it to a T for simplicity and duplication, since they have new crew chiefs constantly. He compared themselves to trained monkeys.

It doesn't mean he has specialized knowledge in that field that would grant him expertise on industry fluids... It just means that he can follow the owners and service manual, and so, for example, if Boeing says (use Boeing oil) that's what they use, purchased in bulk, simply because that's what the manual says.

Don't grant honorary doctorates degrees when they aren't necessarily due...

And I agree, your posts are typically informative and well thought out.

 

[ray66v]

Think of it real basically. Synthetic oil and conventional oil carry many of the same certification specs . . but you sure don't mix them now do you?

You certainly can mix them now, in an engine if you want to.

You cannot change your engine from one, to the other without mixing them.

The oil companies have gone to great lengths to make them compatible for that reason. People do it all the time; there is lots of fear. But, where are all the horror stories to back it up?

Much of what people believe about oil, is based on outdated information. This often leads to paranoia, and, incorrect assumptions.

 

[LD1]

Manufactures even mix synthetic and dino and call it blended.

I personally dont like mixing them. I like to run synthetic. Why would I want to mix a dino in with it? Not that it would be incompatible or anything, but I run synthetic for the longer oil life. Which those benefits would be negated a bit running a mix with some dino.

 

[KubotaToy]

You cannot change... without mixing them.

:thumbsup:

At least for engine oil changes you get most of the oil out but not all. Based on my recent experience with construction equipment, when changing hydraulic or transmission oils, you will only get half of the old oil out unless you are going to take lines and coolers off. I am changing the power train oil on my D4H and only drained about 20 gals of a 31 gal system (the hydraulic system on my LB330 keeps over half the old oil), told by a very knowledgeable and experienced sage that companies take that into account when spec'ing service intervals and oils.

 

[ray66v]

:thumbsup:

At least for engine oil changes you get most of the oil out but not all. Based on my recent experience with construction equipment, when changing hydraulic or transmission oils, you will only get half of the old oil out unless you are going to take lines and coolers off. I am changing the power train oil on my D4H and only drained about 20 gals of a 31 gal system (the hydraulic system on my LB330 keeps over half the old oil), told by a very knowledgeable and experienced sage that companies take that into account when spec'ing service intervals and oils.

The best example of this, is an automatic transmission on a car.

The standard service is to drop the pan, clean or replace the filter, and replace the 5 quarts or so, of oil you drained. But, there is still about 7 quarts in the lines, valve body, and torque converter. All that mixes with your new oil with. How many million times has this been done?

Even if you spend the money, to have it hooked up to one of those machines that promises to pump out the old oil, there is still going to be some of that mixing with the new.

 

[Kenneth S]

Lets say you have a brand new Massey Ferguson, and your neighbor has a brand new John Deere, and you have to barrow a implement that require hydraulics of some sort from each other you have started the mixing of different "original equipment manufacturers recommended oil". Its the same way with construction equipment, the same attachment being hooked between different brands of equipment like a hydraulic hammer for breaking rocks being used on a Caterpillar excavator, then a Komatsu, then a John Deere, etc. The worst things are excessive contaminates in the oil, and getting run low on oil.

 

[AxleHub]

Lets say you have a brand new Massey Ferguson, and your neighbor has a brand new John Deere, and you have to barrow a implement that require hydraulics of some sort from each other you have started the mixing of different "original equipment manufacturers recommended oil". Its the same way with construction equipment, the same attachment being hooked between different brands of equipment like a hydraulic hammer for breaking rocks being used on a Caterpillar excavator, then a Komatsu, then a John Deere, etc. The worst things are excessive contaminates in the oil, and getting run low on oil.

A little confused Kenneth. If the implement is thebthing that needs the fluid . . You'd use the implement's recommendation . . not the tractor's. And if its about the tractor . you and your neighbor each have new tractors . . why would you need to borrow the others' tractor?

 

[Kenneth S]

A little confused Kenneth. If the implement is thebthing that needs the fluid . . You'd use the implement's recommendation . . not the tractor's. And if its about the tractor . you and your neighbor each have new tractors . . why would you need to borrow the others' tractor?

Its not about barrowing the others tractor, its about if you barrow an implement from a neighbor. The implement uses the hydraulic oil that the tractor uses, then you barrow the implement, and use it behind your tractor which is a different brand of tractor than what brand of tractor your neighbor has.

 

[w1ebb]

And if goes back to the old saying, "Oil is oil. NOT!"
Different additive packages make the difference!
I once owned a truck that used ATF in its 4 speed manual transmission.
Many years ago (early 80's) I used ARCO Graphite motor oil in all my vehicles, but since Atlantic-Richfield pulled their products out of Louisiana, I use Castrol in all my gas burners and Shell Rotella T in the tractor.
People swear that gasoline is different by brands, so is motor oil!
There is a brand of cheap oil sold at the $stores that states on the back label, "Not for use in modern engines built after 1934(?)."
I know a guy that thought "oil is oil" and topped off the engine in his riding mower. Ten minutes later, O
out came the piston rod through the case.
The culprit? 80W90 gear oil!
Oil is different because of the different additives used during its production.

Scott