Internet in the Country

[California]

Not much different than Xfinity where they create a separate public hot spot off of your wifi.

I think this is what we will see in the near future everywhere. Wasn't Comcast doing this also, and without notice?

When there are sufficient routers in a region that there is signal everywhere, the next step is to let anyone link through a guest logon of the nearest wifi router instead of maintaining isolation of private routers.

Likewise I've read Windows 10 is set up to share your download of it with your neighbors.

As the world becomes saturated with wifi in the air everywhere it makes sense to use both of these technologies. I hope security measures keep up with networking technology.

 

[kcflhrc]

Cell phone service is sporadic here at best, even with a Wilson amplifier and antennas. The closest cable is miles away, and there's no DSL for at least that distance. Line of site to the nearest microwave Internet antennas is blocked by mountains or canyon walls. The only Internet service available is satellite, and in '10 when I bought the place, the speed and latency issues with the HughesNet setup prevented VOIP. This house was built in '07, and it had phone jacks in every room, but no phone line connected to the house. AT&T charged me over $3K to run the line a mile from the closest service, and I had to trench the last quarter mile on my own nickle. Before agreeing to AT&T's charges, which granted fell far short of the actual installation cost, I contacted the California Public Utilities Commission and was told there was no policy or requirement for AT&T to do the installation for free. So either you're mistaken about COLR or somebody at the CPUC doesn't know about it.

I'm not mistaken about COLR in my State and I never said it was FREE. All I said is we have to provide it if they want it. California? Who the **** knows what goes on out there. And maybe AT&T isn't the COLR in your area, I have no idea. All I know about for sure is my state and as I said in an earlier post some states are doing away with it. And when a Telco commits to it then they have to do it because they took the $$$ for it. Thanks

 

[TomSeller]

I think this is what we will see in the near future everywhere. Wasn't Comcast doing this also, and without notice?

Comcast is Xfinity as far as I know. My understanding is that the Xfinity/Comcast modem in your home has two wifi channels it broadcasts, your own plus a public that one other Xfinity customers can access. So I'm told. Supposedly that network is separate from your own but lets them create a public network that's pretty impressive.

 

[CurlyDave]

Do you have any idea how much it would cost to bury 10 miles of fiber? And then bury to each home? And then on top of that all the electronics to support the fiber....

When we had electricity, & copper phone lines put in, they ploughed it underground using a vibratory plough. The cost of the install was one man-day of dozer time. Could have gone a lot more distance than the ~0.5 mile he went for us in that time. He just charged for a full day because he could, but it looked like he went at a walking pace with the dozer and plough.

If they can do that safely with a 7000 Volt electric line (the wire was free from the electric company because they wanted to sell the electricity), I do not understand why the same can not be done with a fiber optic line. Fiber optic sounds delicate, but they can use a high strength messenger wire and cladding to make it far more robust than just a glass fiber.

 

[edkemper]

If they can do that safely with a 7000 Volt electric line (the wire was free from the electric company because they wanted to sell the electricity), I do not understand why the same cannot be done with a fiber optic line. Fiber optic sounds delicate, but they can use a high strength messenger wire and cladding to make it far more robust than just a glass fiber.

You totally missed the boat on this. About the only thing that prevents the fair deal we enjoyed when electric lines were installed is Congress. They have totally given away what we used to have. They charge the crazy prices because they have a monopoly and because they can. De-regulation. When electric was installed, did we have CEO's making multi-millions/Billions per year? How do you think they can afford to pay them those multi-millions/Billions?

By the way, I own my router. If I found out the provider was stealing from my personal property and/that which I pay for, I think I would have to arrange to be compensated.

 

[scboolitcaster]

That makes no sense what-so-ever. The type of service/speed available has absolutely nothing to do with data caps. The fact is, anyone with cell coverage has a lot of options. Those without have far less options, but options none the less. If one chooses to live in an area far from civilization, they would be a fool to not realize they値l be doing without things that those closer to town have available. Itç—´ a choice you make. No one is under any obligation to spend tens of thousands of dollars to give you cheap high speed internet. If anyone really thinks high speed internet is a 渡ecessity (which is laughable), perhaps youæ±*e not suited for rural living.

Where I live, AT&T provides DSL. We were told that "there are no ports available" after they ran the copper to the house.
So my only option for low latency internet is 4G, which is also through AT&T.

DSL - Unlimited bandwidth for ~40.00 a month.
4G - 60GB of bandwidth for ~180.00 a month, and $10/GB for any over 60. Add 25% to the 4G number if you don't get the discount I do.

I'd say they stand to make a ton more money from 4G customers, especially those who exceed their bandwidth limit (which I'm interpreting to mean "cap".)

 

[kcflhrc]

If you really think AT&T local and AT&T Wireless are in some conspiracy together you are sadly mistaken. Those 2 departments don't know each other exist for all practical purposes. And depending on where you live, it very well could be true that there are " no ports available" and they will have to make a costly upgrade to add more HSI. That could take some time if the demand isn't there. I pay $260 a month for 4 lines and Unlimited Data through Sprint, you may want to look at another carrier because AT&T sure isn't the cheapest thing going.

 

[scboolitcaster]

If you really think AT&T local and AT&T Wireless are in some conspiracy together you are sadly mistaken. Those 2 departments don't know each other exist for all practical purposes. And depending on where you live, it very well could be true that there are " no ports available" and they will have to make a costly upgrade to add more HSI. That could take some time if the demand isn't there. I pay $260 a month for 4 lines and Unlimited Data through Sprint, you may want to look at another carrier because AT&T sure isn't the cheapest thing going.

We checked before we bought the property - response was, "Yes DSL is available"
When we ordered the DSL "Yes DSL is available"
After they ran the line "Sorry, no ports available. But you might be able to get 4G wireless"

Probably just coincidental that AT&T can charge 5x for wireless data. Yeah.

 

[paulharvey]

We checked before we bought the property - response was, "Yes DSL is available"
When we ordered the DSL "Yes DSL is available"
After they ran the line "Sorry, no ports available. But you might be able to get 4G wireless"

Probably just coincidental that AT&T can charge 5x for wireless data. Yeah.

What probably has happened is DSL is available, but all the numbers in the switch are already a signed. I'm not knowledgeable enough to understand or explain if they can split or what, but just cause there is wire, doesn't mean there enough for you too.

Think of a water line. Start off with a 2" line feeding, say, 12 homes in the 1950s. Now, that same 2" line has been patched, tapped, and tuburculated; instead of 12 homes, there is 60; instead of 20 gallons per person/day, it's 80-100; and you still expect 65 psi? Now, you move in and you know the neighbor has a 3/4" water line, and you demand the water company tap into his already barely adequate line and supply you?

 

[kcflhrc]

We checked before we bought the property - response was, "Yes DSL is available"
When we ordered the DSL "Yes DSL is available"
After they ran the line "Sorry, no ports available. But you might be able to get 4G wireless"

Probably just coincidental that AT&T can charge 5x for wireless data. Yeah.

These orders are written way before the installer gets the order. Then it goes through the whole engineering process. Trust me, they knew way before the "line was ran" that there were no ports.