Backhoe Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor...

   / Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor... #21  
Glad you're OK as well as the machine and I really like your optimistic point of view about being able to grease the bottom side.
 
   / Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor... #22  
x2. I'm glad Coyote Machine didn't get hurt and that all equipment survived but now I recognize the "benefit" of simply storing the BH outside on a 6x6 with outriggers extended. I've always been a bit jealous of those with a nice concrete floored barn but I think I'll just count my blessings and keep doing things the same way. A bit of a pain to put a big canvas tarp over it but I'll live with it.
I have the BXpanded BH dolly and love it because I have limited space and need to move it around frequently. I don't take it off much so I watch the youtube video some times again just to refresh my memory.
 
   / Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor... #23  
Back when I worked for a living, I was Union Ironworker. One thing you learn quickly is that if you drop something, or something falls, Do not try to catch it. It is so en grained that I watch stuff hit the ground and then chuckle....glad you and the equipment are fine.
 
   / Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor... #24  
CM glad you are ok. Dangerous event.

My dad and uncles clubbed it into my skull, never prop up anything heavy unless out in the middle of a field where it can't hurt anyone and even then don't do it!
 
   / Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor... #25  
Glad no one got hurt ! A big thanks because I was just planning to take the hoe off and store it the same as last year but after reading your post I will be putting much more thought into my storage plan this year. Think I might rearrange a few things and use the overhead beam and a trolley as a safety. A little harder to move that way but well worth the piece of mind.
 
   / Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor...
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#26  
Thanks to all who have replied since I last posted. We, wife and I, appreciate the support. I have been eying a gantry crane that I saw at Harbor Freight earlier in the Fall. I saw one at a boat restoration museum in Clayton, NY, and it was the same model. Not saying it would have prevented the hoe from flipping, but it might have. Pretty big expense as I recall, but I think I may seriously consider it for the extra safety factor.

I don't want this thread to discourage anyone from using a dolly type support. The entire fault is mine. I went from a concrete floor, to a floor covered with polypropylene tiles that are somewhat slippery under the right conditions, and can create unexpected resistance to small dolly wheels from rolling in others. I used my log grapple, which was on the tractor, just as I thought, I'll try moving the hoe one more time this way, and if that doesn't work I'll switch to the pallet forks.... Well, too late, I should have been less lazy and gone to get the forks. They allow me to drive over the sub-frame and access the entire hoe and lift it,CAREFULLY, to allow moving it to a better position. But I had already spent a lot of time messing with dolly position/adjustment and decided to forgo the forks for the grapple. Big mistake.
I changed the platform and it was less stable than I thought it would be, much to my surprise. And It was much more tippy on the dipper end than it was previously. So, point is I created the bad Ju-Ju, and now need to re-work the platform to prevent this type of occurrence in future.

Bigger 5" polypro wheels with swivel base/locks on each, bought today. Progress and final product will be shown as it pans out. Stay tuned.
 
   / Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor... #27  
You might want to watch the size of the wheels. I've had to design dollies for my equipment to accommodate the range of the 3 pt arms. I don't have a backhoe, so I don't know what your height restriction would be.
 
   / Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor... #28  
Regarding implement used to lift/move the BH, I can see that the grapple wasn't a great idea (though I might well have done the same). I would think that a tree boom on the loader with chain or straps to the BH might be even safer than forks. Wouldn't lifting from above provide more stability than using forks below a top heavy BH/dolly?
 
   / Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor... #29  
IslandTractor is spot on. The BH has an inherently high center of gravity, and when not on the tractor tends to be tippy. Here's a dolly I made for my BH77 hoe. If I were doing it again, I'd spread the two wheels further apart for more stability and use an A frame (rather than the T), as on the T frame the hoe main boom pivot sags down to sit on the frame - not a big deal, but does flex the frame. Also, when I modify it, I'll make latches to go over the top of the pin cradles - shown are simple cups, which work fine, but if spreading the wheels apart for added anti-tip, it does no good if the hoe support points are narrow without locking it down.

The cradle is used on concrete, even so, the hard rubber tread is too soft - would be better of with either hard urethane of steel wheels.

 
   / Bad day: flipped backhoe, then almost flipped tractor... #30  
Here is the BX BH dolly. Note 4 wheels, a cross support for the bucket, and locating stops for proper positioning. It rolls under the mounted BH until it contacts the tractor. Then you use the hydraulics and pull the connection pins. Fairly easy to do.

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