O my, I am comfused

   / O my, I am comfused #241  
SSQA stands for Skid Steer Quick Attach. It is the standard mounting plate that you have on Bobcat and many other skid steers. Most compact utility tractors have some kind of SSQA plate on the loader so that skid steer attachments can be used. With these quick attach plates, changing from buckets to forks or other attachments takes just a few seconds. Skid steer attachments typically come in light duty, medium / standard duty and heavy duty varieties. For most CUTS the light duty attachments will probably be best. For the largest CUTS the standard / medium duty attachment may be appropriate. The heavy duty attachments are overkill for any CUT and the extra weight reduces what your FEL can lift. For example, heavy duty SSQA grapples can weigh over 1000 pounds. The snow bucket that I recently purchase was "light duty". It is 550 pounds, made of thicker and better quality steel than my original equipment bucket and has more reinforcement. It is not "light duty" by any measure in the CUT world. But in a world with 90 hp tracked skid steers, it is light duty.
The grapples for a 100hp skid steer still look light duty compared to loader grapples that go on machines with lift capacities over 10 ton.

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   / O my, I am comfused #242  
The grapples for a 100hp skid steer still look light duty compared to loader grapples that go on machines with lift capacities over 10 ton.

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Yeah that might be a little much for a sub compact to handle.:laughing:

If that pallet could talk it would be screaming.:eek:
 
   / O my, I am comfused #243  
Yeah that might be a little much for a sub compact to handle.:laughing: If that pallet could talk it would be screaming.
I doubt a sub compact could ever push it. The cylinders on that thing are bigger than the one on my log splitter.
 
   / O my, I am comfused #244  
The grapples for a 100hp skid steer still look light duty compared to loader grapples that go on machines with lift capacities over 10 ton.

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Hopefully the attachment plate is different than the new one AxleHub was describing for SCUTs. Otherwise, this could cause a lot of confusion! :laughing:
 
   / O my, I am comfused #245  
4570, That doesn't look like something that grabs wood . . . It looks like something that eats it. :)

Run for cover . . Look at the fangs it has lol.
 
   / O my, I am comfused #246  
Re: grapples. I have the Land Pride SGC-0548 on my BX-2370. It weighs 24 lbs more than my bucket. Not much capacity impact at all. It cost me $1,600 from the dealer, installed at time of purchase. I believe I got a good deal on it. Either way, this has done a good job for me and will pick up much more than I thought it would.

I also have all Cat 1 implements. My first tractor was a Kubota L3800, so a good sized larger machine than my current one. I will say it again. My SCUT is not a toy; it is a full functioning tractor. It is limited in weight compared to my CUT, but it is an impressive and very capable machine. I also mow with my BX and it takes me 2 minutes or less to put mower deck on or take it off.
 
   / O my, I am comfused #247  
Re: grapples. I have the Land Pride SGC-0548 on my BX-2370. It weighs 24 lbs more than my bucket. Not much capacity impact at all. It cost me $1,600 from the dealer, installed at time of purchase. I believe I got a good deal on it. Either way, this has done a good job for me and will pick up much more than I thought it would.

My SCUT is not a toy; it is a full functioning tractor. It is limited in weight compared to my CUT, but it is an impressive and very capable machine. I also mow with my BX and it takes me 2 minutes or less to put mower deck on or take it off.

Tractorshopper,

The landpride you got and had installed . . Did that include the landpride 3rd function unit too or was that additional cost ?

Also . . Does it attach by quick attach or is your bucket quick attach or . . . ???
 
   / O my, I am comfused #248  
I've read through most of this thread and lots of good advice here. I'll just throw in my opinion and experience from 50+ years of farming and rural living.

Get/keep a dedicated lawn mower, the SCUT will damage your lawn and is harder to maneuver. I use a 46" deck old MTD-built thing to cut close to the house and the flower beds and use a bigger 54" Husqvarna for the open areas. I have a 60" rear mount finish mower on a Mahindra eMax 22 to mow pasture areas, it's MUCH better than any mid mount and was cheaper too. I had two dealers talk me out of the MMM. I also use a bush hog type rotary mower if the pastures get out of hand. If you are doing any sort of FEL work, the HST is worth whatever the extra cost, if any, might be. Heck, in my opinion it is vastly superior to anything else out there. I've had and used gear tractors for something like 45 years, back on the farm and on my place. I'm as good as anybody using it (anyone that's had a Ford 9N or 8N has to get good to use them effectively with mounted mowers)... But, you'll pry my cold, dead hands off the steering wheel of my HST before I'd give it up. Got a little spoiled back in the day on the Ford Commander 6000 with Selecto-O-Speed, not HST but hydraulic gear selection, no clutching needed. If you are doing real farming on larger acreage gear is the way to go.

For what little, relatively, you'll be doing a grapple is too much and too expensive. Spend your money on something you really need. I've found bucket forks (they are cheap in the small sizes) with the logs cut to size are more than enough, and handy for all kinds of other things, from unloading pallets on a truck to carrying brush.

My set up is the eMax 22 with FEL and HST, loaded rear R4 tires, new to me JD GT275 48" mower, Husqvarna LGT 2554, Huskee (MTD) 46" mower, Ford 9N, Ford 8N for doing bigger stuff like pulling a manure spreader. I maintain all of them but they really don't cost much in the way of dollars or time. Since getting the Mahindra last year one of the Ns sit most of the time.

The wife actually wanted to get the new Mahindra due to the attractive financing and the 5 year warranty. We have a good and growing dealer about 10 miles away. We got in, with a rear blade (my old one was shot) and quick hitch for just above $13,000. It's also small enough to get into the barn if needed, have had to retrieve some dead animals so that is worth it too. We looked at lots of used Kubotas, all nice but about the cost of a new one if the hours were low and would have had to go to the bank to finance one, and then there is the issue of past use and maintenance done. JDs were just too pricey for what they were and the Mahindra blew them away on the strength of the materials that were used in the tractor. BTW, the tractor, the eMax 22, and 25, are made by TYM with a Daedong engine ( branded Kioti in the US) that is Tier IV compliant... no smoke, except a puff on start up. Some of the larger ones are Mitsubishi built.

Good luck in your search. You really can't go wrong with any of the modern SCUTs or CUTS, no matter the brand.
 
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#249  
So after 25 pages i think i am going to purchase a Massey Furgoson 1734e. Turf tires quixk attach bucket and a rear 60 inch finish mower.

Grapple will be a future purchase.

This i will not out grow for all of m future needs whatever may come up. Plenty of ground clearance and the underbody is protected. It does have a dpf filter but the desler told me its rated life is 3500 hrs. 5000 dollars to change tho! By the time inhit thoes hrs ill ne 60 years old.

The scut are just way to small and for a couple thousand more im getting a machine thats just overall 10 times better in eveyy area except getting into smaller areas and lighter.

Not finalized but gonna make my desicion soon.
 
   / O my, I am comfused #250  
Congratulations Ooklaa on the decision!

That's a nice machine - 34 HP, 1200 Lbs lift on the FEL and SSQA bucket. You will be able to add SSQA forks or other attachments.

The only area you might want to reconsider is the turf vs R4 industrials - both will work well, but if you intend for more rugged use then go R4 but if its 80% lawn mowing use and 20% forest go turf. If 50/50 go R4.

The R4's have a much higher puncture resistance and stiffer sidewall profile to deal with rocks, and other nasty stuff when your bucket is loaded, but also they work on the lawn without issue (unless you make tight turns where the R4 will make a mark, the turf will scuff the grass). The turfs are best for mowing and have better traction in snow but don't have the toughness of the industrial.

As an example some people buy both thinking they will change them out and most often the turf tire setups for sale, not the R4's.

Carl
 

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