Neighbor doesn't want me to farm.

[gghb]

what joatguy said call your county extensine service office they will supply expert advise..

greg

 

[Sodo]

I'm sure they would think I was insane if I suggested they pay me not to farm. I don't think it would lead them to a common sense realization that they are asking for something that is both irrational and self centered. They would probably look at it as extortion. "Pay up or I spray you with the evil chemicals"

That's when you have to correct them that it seems more fair that they pay for the lifestyle they have in mind, because their current proposal has you paying for it.

But anyway it sounds like you have a good plan, just have to work it thru your head. Give it time. Everyone (IMHO) should do what it takes to make America a good place to live. That's just my opinion, some of you fellas can make it (all heck) if you want, maybe your neighbors already have and if that's the case I'm sorry for you.

 

[riptides]

That's when you have to correct them that it seems more fair that they pay for the lifestyle they have in mind, because their current proposal has you paying for it.

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Again, I think you are assuming you are dealing with rational people. You have no insight into how people will react at any given moment.

You assume, nice and coherent.

I think the OP has his bases covered, and is trying to be straight up "nice" about it, but I hope he has Plan B worked out just in case.

 

[Bill Guenthner]

Don't forget; the neighbor may just decide that the property line near the apple orchard would be best served with a privacy fence of densely planted Eastern Red Cedars. After all, it's his property, right? Does it matter if they are diseased? Maybe you can spray for it, I don't know.

That's right. Cedar Rust disease is really difficult to control. I eventually gave up and cut down my apple trees.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

TomSeller I think you have the right apples for a really good cider Already.

 

[Sprinklerman]

There is a term , "the highest and best use of the property" Its your land .

 

[ch1ch2]

I hope people don't go this route. My dad thought like this and and one brother does too. My mom didn't, and I personally don't prefer it. My current neighbors aren't like this. If you make your bed you have to lay in it. "Never be alone?" That's a bit much. That's not my America, NOT what I will teach my kids. But keep in mind maybe your neighbor was raised like this.

WoodchuckDad maybe you can look at the area (where neighbor made his mistake in house placement) as generating a different form of revenue. Perhaps a much EASIER type of farming - grow BUFFER! Lets say they would like to preserve the buffer (perhaps while they enhance their own buffer). Tell them the land they want use of, will produce $XXX of apple profit per acre per year. If they want use of the land they are welcome to lease it from you for $X,XXX. If they decline it becomes their decision, and there is no bad guy. If they want to do it for a few years then they can make that decision every year whether it's worthwhile. When they tire of paying (which could be before even the first payment) then you can expand the orchard. You get the same money for less work, less chemicals too. This becomes their way to "let go" of the neighbor property they THINK they own.

For you, the 5 acres begin to produce revenue from day one, before the rest of the orchard has the first apple. This will be useful to you, it could pay startup costs. My guess is that they will decline, and seeing the ball in their court, will let go of their notions.

The cost of this project is their responsibility not yours. Tell them you're willing to do the footwork to keep everyone happy, but not willing to pay in lawyering (or in apples). YOU contact the lawyer, don't deal with theirs. A standard lease can be adjusted in one hour. They don't get rights to do anything on the leased land, their only right is prevent cutting of trees while the lease is in-force. You can make it whatever you want, 3 years then year-to-year thereafter. And you can use the land as a wildlife corridor as you planned. Just keep quiet and let them talk about their needs ONLY. Don't admit to ANY benefits that you will enjoy (less work or wildlife).

This is the BEST idea. This is why I love this forum.

 

[wngsprd]

WoodChuckDad - sounds like you have a well grounded plan.

Let me know when your cider is ready - I'd love to drive down and buy a couple of bottles.

 

[wngsprd]

WoodChuckDad - sounds like you have a well grounded plan.

Let me know when your cider is ready - I'd love to drive down and buy a couple of bottles.

 

[forgeblast]

Please post when your setting/planting/growing your orchard!! love to see it take shape.
The buffer you may be able to make money on it by enrolling it into CREP which is a conservation reserve enhancement program. You can do it for 10-15 years. We have a few acres enrolled in it and it pays us 200 a year to grow trees.