Anyone use Amsteel Blue Rope?

[ovrszd]

I think mine came with a two year warranty cant remember never had to use it. I got my first 3k warn fixed under warranty twice and it broke a third time after a couple months. It was out of warranty and warn refused to fix it again. I wasnt too upset because it was the free model that was yamaha branded and came with the atv, wasnt sealed and warn specifically says not to submerge it. So I replaced it with a model that warn says is ok to submerge and when it started having the same problems instead of shipping it back I went to the viper. Havent had any problems at all using it the same exact way I even kept the warn contactor and switch since it was already wired up and hooked the warn wires to the viper winch.

Good Stuff.

I compared the Viper to Warn today. Viper 4K can be bought for $264. Warn Vantage 4K is $407. Warn Proadvantage 4.5K is $650.

Amp draw is comparable. Amp draw is something that is critical if you use your winch a lot.

Line speed is better with Warn until you are max load, then they were very close. Line speed is not as critical most times. I want fast line speed on my Jeep Buggy winches so I can climb extremely steep cliffs while on winch and not worry about running over the cable/rope.

Viper is 1 year warranty, I assume on everything. Warn is 1 year on electrical, 5 year on mechanical.

Viper is wireless, Warn is not.

I think I'll go Viper and give it a try. I won't be submerging the Winch unless something goes REALLY bad. Probably use it half a dozen times a year to get myself out of a "Stupid Human" spot.

EDIT: OOOPPPSSS. Misquoted the price of the Viper. Looks like the Elite, which you have to buy to get rope is around $430. I'll do some more searching. But for similar money I'll hafta think about it hard. I respect Warn products highly. Have put my risk of injury or worse in Warn's hands many, many times over the past 30 years.

 

[Garycw]

Rick, Yep. That's what I was getting at earlier. I can tell many Horror stories about mixing stretch ropes with anything other than another stretch rope. That's also why I posted the pics of how to tie them together. A clevis in the middle is just looking for someone to kill.....

That is scary stuff. The velocity must be over s 1000fps? I've been pretty lucky so far. I knew the potential was there, but never knew just how devastating it could be. I used to think chains were safe from doing that.

 

[ovrszd]

That is scary stuff. The velocity must be over s 1000fps? I've been pretty lucky so far. I knew the potential was there, but never knew just how devastating it could be. I used to think chains were safe from doing that.

Chains or clevis' are rated for a steady pull, not a yank. Imagine how many lbs of pull can be created by a 5000 lb truck with a 20-30 ft run???? That compounding is what the steel can't handle.

 

[RobertBrown]

if you need a snatch rope....don't scrimp. Get a kinetic recovery strap....1"
I have seen them in action and it's the way to go...no worries. the longer the better.

Master Super-Yanker Kinetic Recovery Rope

 

[Mace Canute]

That is scary stuff. The velocity must be over s 1000fps? I've been pretty lucky so far. I knew the potential was there, but never knew just how devastating it could be. I used to think chains were safe from doing that.

This has been posted before...it shows just how even a huge chain can break and snap back at an incredible speed.

 

[Wa11banger]

That is scary stuff. The velocity must be over s 1000fps? I've been pretty lucky so far. I knew the potential was there, but never knew just how devastating it could be. I used to think chains were safe from doing that.

I have no idea of the velocity required, all I know is was so loud it made me jump and flinch.. by the time my blink was over there was a strap running through his tail gate and cab.. this was a full size truck.. personally I wouldnt have ever thought it would have made it through the tail gate as I have seen a few get smashed but never compromised. But in all those cases that was where a single rope broke and only rope slapped the tailgate. The clevis was an eye opener to a holy crap moment. Now I have an old heavy thrift store blanket on every extraction.. It matters not what the media being used is, rope, cable, chain, etc.. it gets that big ole blanket tossed over it

 

[SPYDERLK]

This has been posted before...it shows just how even a huge chain can break and snap back at an incredible speed.

All material things store energy under stress because they stretch elastically.
,,, Everything is springy to some extent. Sudden release of that energy is seen in the "snap back". It is easy to make the interpretation that all that energy was stored in the tow line. This is definitely not the case. Both endpoints of the tow [tow vehicle, towed vehicle, etc] are springy too. THIS part adds to whatever is in the tow line itself.

In the video we know that one end of the chain let go and it snapped back to the other end. What we dont know is the proportion of that evident energy that was stored in the chain itself vs the remainder stored in the mooring on the end that held.
,,, Chain gives an excellent demo of the result due the orderly collapse. Other tow lines dissipate energy more quickly by friction between fibers. As brought out, their recoil velocity is very high and any concentrated mass will grab that energy instantly - before any dissipation - and become a formidable projectile. ... By comparison a rebounding chain is a bulldozer.
larry