Grapple Hyd Hose Routing and Questions

[aeblank]

I like it better than a bulkhead fitting as I can disconnect the hoses by just pulling on them and connect them by pushing in on the hose (no need to fuss with a collar to connect or disconnect the hoses.

Maybe I'm in the beating a dead horse to death category, but I still don't understand.
Isn't the plugging / unplugging (push/pull with no collars) a function of the quick disconnect type and NOT a function of what's holding the fitting in place?

 

[k0ua]

No problem. Here it is (on a hay baler), I am not using the "tongue" that came with it and instead ran a pair of bolts through from the back of the metal its mounted on.
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The 1/2" hoses from the tractor (would be 3/8" if I did it again) are on the left and the 1/4" hoses (to the cylinder) are on the right.
I like it better than a bulkhead fitting as I can disconnect the hoses by just pulling on them and connect them by pushing in on the hose (no need to fuss with a collar to connect or disconnect the hoses.

Aaron Z

I got it!.. now why in heck didn't I think of doing that? I didn't understand the significance of the push/pull collar and those brackets, now I do! Thanks Aaron!

 

[k0ua]

Maybe I'm in the beating a dead horse to death category, but I still don't understand.
Isn't the plugging / unplugging (push/pull with no collars) a function of the quick disconnect type and NOT a function of what's holding the fitting in place?

Look at how the collars are held by the bracket and only the bracket. Now think, you only have to push on the QD with the male part, for it to connect, and then you only have to pull on it for it to disconnect.

 

[aczlan]

Maybe I'm in the beating a dead horse to death category, but I still don't understand.
Isn't the plugging / unplugging (push/pull with no collars) a function of the quick disconnect type and NOT a function of what's holding the fitting in place?

As ku0a said, the quick disconnects are mounted by the collars. As such, then you push the implement side in, its like you slid the collar out and when you pull the hose out, its like you slid the collar in.
It makes connecting the hoses a one handed operation.

Aaron Z

 

[aeblank]

the collars are held by the bracket

DOH! :thumbsup:
Thanks.......

I have a male and female on each half. That way I can't hook it up wrong and I can couple both sides of the cylinder together on the grapple.
Wouldn't work for that configuration, but it's still pretty dang cool.

 

[aczlan]

Here is another style with a circlip holding it to a plate:


Aaron Z

 

[MOTractor]

Question about the hydraulic hose support clamps: I will need a couple of these on the loader arm to hold the hoses - should I attach them by welding or screws? Will small welds or a drilled hole for a screw weaken the arm at all? Does it matter at all?

 

[k0ua]

Question about the hydraulic hose support clamps: I will need a couple of these on the loader arm to hold the hoses - should I attach them by welding or screws? Will small welds or a drilled hole for a screw weaken the arm at all? Does it matter at all?

As you saw on my thread, I welded the bracket to the piece of metal that covered the lines on the torque tube between the loader lines. Obviously I took it off to weld it. It had very little clearance under it, so I didn't think bolts would work. Yours might be different. Pop rivets might have worked, but I don't know strong that would be, as you are putting some force on them when hooking and unhooking. So I broke out the welder. looks better anyway.

 

[MOTractor]

As you saw on my thread, I welded the bracket to the piece of metal that covered the lines on the torque tube between the loader lines.

The bracket on my torque tube is easy, I can remove, weld, and bolt it back. All of the loader hoses are factory installed on the right side loader arm - no room for my grapple hoses, had to go down the left side arm. There is nothing there to zip tie to, will need to install a bracket. Just wanting to make sure I would not weaken the arm by welding or drilling a hole.

 

[k0ua]

The bracket on my torque tube is easy, I can remove, weld, and bolt it back. All of the loader hoses are factory installed on the right side loader arm - no room for my grapple hoses, had to go down the left side arm. There is nothing there to zip tie to, will need to install a bracket. Just wanting to make sure I would not weaken the arm by welding or drilling a hole.

I don't think it would be a problem to drill a couple of small holes. I would use some grease in the hole to help prevent rusting. I have always used No-Ox-Id when putting in screws into auto bodies to prevent corrosion. I have taken some out years later and they never rust or degrade in any way. But you could also tack on some brackets with a couple of fast tack welds.