The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #801  
The Wicked Grapple comes with Pioneer style quick disconnects, one male and one female. This is pure genius. Every manufacturer of tractors and attachments should have one male and one female. The reason becomes obvious in the picture below. It allows the hose ends to be connected together when not attached to an implement, keeping them clean and avoiding problems if the operator grabs the wrong handle.

If you connect them together to keep them "clean" and if the weather is significantly warmer when you go to disconnect the couplings, you will likely not be able to get them apart due to thermal expansion without loosening up a threaded connection. Not having to figure out which is which is a big help, however. I use caps to keep them clean and burp the male end to relieve pressure.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #802  
If you connect them together to keep them "clean" and if the weather is significantly warmer when you go to disconnect the couplings, you will likely not be able to get them apart due to thermal expansion without loosening up a threaded connection. Not having to figure out which is which is a big help, however. I use caps to keep them clean and burp the male end to relieve pressure.

Okay, thanks for the tip.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #803  
Okay, thanks for the tip.

Here is another, As soon as you take the grapple off, connect the male and female connectors on the grapple together, and then disconnect them again letting a little fluid "puke" out. Then re-connect again. This will create a deficit of fluid in the lines on the grapple. So when the heat expansion occurs, there will not be much of a pressure rise, because the lines will not be full of fluid. It seems to work for me, I don't have any problem re-connecting ever.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #804  
Here is another, As soon as you take the grapple off, connect the male and female connectors on the grapple together, and then disconnect them again letting a little fluid "puke" out. Then re-connect again. This will create a deficit of fluid in the lines on the grapple. So when the heat expansion occurs, there will not be much of a pressure rise, because the lines will not be full of fluid. It seems to work for me, I don't have any problem re-connecting ever.

Here's another tip: carry a rag, a half inch bolt a small hammer or heavy wrench in your tool box. When the hydraulic couplers get "frozen" by fluid pressure, 1) put the rag over the male tip and whack it, then 2) insert the bolt into the female end and tap the bolt.

I've never had trouble disconnecting "frozen" couplers but trouble connecting them is a routine issue if the implements are out in the sun.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!
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#805  
I could be wrong, I often am, but here is how I ran the hydraulic lines on my 5555 for my Wicked Grapple. First we used a retired team roping rope passing it through the tractor from the back to the front where we thought the hoses should go, marked a place on the rope about midway of the front cross brace on the FEL and pulled the rope out. Then stretched the rope straight and measured it. It was 21 feet and I added a foot just in case.

My local auto parts house makes hydraulic hoses. They get $.32 an inch for 1/4 inch ID, .34 for 3/8s and .39 for 1/2 inch. It was only $11 more to go with 3/8 and even though it is merely 50% larger in diameter it actually flows 2.25 times as much fluid which would make the lid a little snappier.

The Wicked Grapple comes with Pioneer style quick disconnects, one male and one female. This is pure genius. Every manufacturer of tractors and attachments should have one male and one female. The reason becomes obvious in the picture below. It allows the hose ends to be connected together when not attached to an implement, keeping them clean and avoiding problems if the operator grabs the wrong handle.

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My auto parts man asked me if I wanted straight or 90 degree or some other angle fittings. To keep things neat and tidy out back, I went with 90s so that there would not be big honking 180 degree bends flopping around. The 90s also made it easier to take advantage of the male/female connectors up front.

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For the time being, zip cords hold the hoses. After we get the grapple and settle on the final configuration, we will use screwed on clamps to secure the lines. It looks like 22 feet is going to be too long, but that's better than too short.

Nice work on your hydraulic lines! Have you showed off that Wicked Grapple yet?
Travis
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #806  
Nice work on your hydraulic lines! Have you showed off that Wicked Grapple yet?
Travis

You guys should invent some easy to mount hydraulic hose brackets. Speaking from personal experience, sometimes those temporary solutions (zip ties, in this market) often become permanent solutions.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #807  
Nice work on your hydraulic lines! Have you showed off that Wicked Grapple yet?
Travis

Thank you. We did this in preparation for the grapple. We received an email today saying that it shipped. Should have it Tuesday. Pictures to follow.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #808  
You guys should invent some easy to mount hydraulic hose brackets. Speaking from personal experience, sometimes those temporary solutions (zip ties, in this market) often become permanent solutions.

I have permanently attached mine with baling twine about 5 times.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #809  
Nothing wrong with zip ties as long as you use the black ones that are UV resistant. I have a few on my NH TL100A, securing the 3rd function hoses to grapple, that are over 5 years old.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #810  
Last year, we switched to net wrapped round bales. Now I don't know how we will hold things together without hay string.

Zip ties is the new baling wire.

Seeing as how I am new at this and all of you have been so helpful, let me ask a question. When we hook up the grapple bucket there will be about 50 feet of hydraulic hose full of air. Does that pose a problem?
 
 

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