Tractor Sizing How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift?

[LD1]

I actually went back and read the first page of posts again, and have come to the conclusion that what you lifted is pretty much spot on what its rated for.

Lets look at the specs. With a 155# bucket installed....

You can lift 870# at the pins to max height and 580# at the bucket edge (20" forward) to max height. Bucket center would be about the average of that, and your load on the pallet is distributed in such a way that its load center would be about bucket center. So that would be 725# to max height.

But, since you just lifted a few feet and moved, look at the specs for lifting only to 1m height. 1050# at the pins and 760 20" forward. Average that again to get closer to your load center, and we are at 905#

You moved 898#

Pretty spot on to me. Dont know if the published spec includes the QH?? but your forks are also lighter than the bucket.....

So why is it you think you can lift about 175# more than its rated for? If that were true, you would need to lift almost 1000# of pallet and goods with the same load placement. You didnt. It can't.

 

[LD1]

So how much can a Kubota BX25 lift? I haven't had a chance to check it out in the real world yet, but has anyone else?

518# at bucket edge and 745 at pin to max height.

Real world that would mean about 650 ish in the center of the bucket to full height.

The lower the height requirement, the more it will lift. Probably around 950# if you just need to lift a few inches. Since cal lift ~75", knock about 4# off for each additional inch you need to raise.

It will be less with a load farther foward. It will be more with a load in closer.

You see, there is no simple answer. Load placement and lift height are ever varying factors.

 

[LD1]

Subcompact tractor is a new category between
garden tractors and compact utility tractors that is not
defined by ASAE but offered by some manufacturers.
Subcompact tractors are about the size (power and
dimensions) of garden tractors but are built like compact
utility tractors with water-cooled diesel engines, powertake-off
(PTO), three-point hitch, remote hydraulics and
heavy construction

Quote from the link posted. Is it more offensive to say

Overgrown garden tractor?

Or undersized CUT?

 

[4570Man]

Does a garden tractor have a 3ph or a loader? I thought my Kubota G6500 was a garden tractor which doesn't have either. Does it offend the G6500 when I park it in the same garage as the L3240. Does it offend my little saw when I store it on the same shelf as my 372 XP?

 

[davesl708]

Does a garden tractor have a 3ph or a loader? I thought my Kubota G6500 was a garden tractor which doesn't have either. Does it offend the G6500 when I park it in the same garage as the L3240. Does it offend my little saw when I store it on the same shelf as my 372 XP?

My JD D130 had such feeling of inadequacy sitting next to my BX2200 I found it a new home.

 

[jenkinsph]

Quote from the link posted. Is it more offensive to say

Overgrown garden tractor?

Or undersized CUT?

Hard to know what offends some people the most.

It can get a little blurred though as my garden tractor meets the requirements listed for the subcut above with water cooled diesel, front and rear pto (selectable), three point hitch with IMatch, two sets of hydraulic couplers and heavy construction. That said you can consider it a lawn mower and that is okay by me.

 

[TJP89]

My JD D130 had such feeling of inadequacy sitting next to my BX2200 I found it a new home.

That's nothing, I was really struggling through 2-3ft snow drifts on my road with the Kioti, then the neighbor shows up with the JD 8330, 300HP row crop with front blade and a cab. That's a feeling of inadequacy.

 

[gladehound]

Quote from the link posted. Is it more offensive to say

Overgrown garden tractor?

Or undersized CUT?

I would argue that a SCUT is not an overgrown garden tractor because it doesn't necessarily have more ground clearance. In fact, compared to the garden tractors I've used, modern SCUTs tend to have much less ground clearance. As such, their design seems to lend them to lawn use more than garden use.

The article also states that a SCUT is similar in dimensions to a garden tractor. Therefore, it is not overgrown grown compared to a garden tractor. Perhaps it would be better to label it an over featured garden tractor. But then there is the ground clearance issue.

Given the design and primary use of a SCUT, it seems to be the top end category of premium lawn tractors. As a premium lawn tractor it has many capabilities that lesser lawn tractors don't have (cat 1 3pt. loader / backhoe availability). CUTs are typically not optimized for yard mowing as a primary task. However, there are some exceptions.

The only reason that I really am not a SCUT fan, is that they seem to be priced on the high side compared to larger tractors. So I struggle with the value equation. But for those who want the versatility and either need the small size to access work areas or have limited space to store equipment I can see how they make a ton of sense.

 

[gladehound]

That's nothing, I was really struggling through 2-3ft snow drifts on my road with the Kioti, then the neighbor shows up with the JD 8330, 300HP row crop with front blade and a cab. That's a feeling of inadequacy.

Ha! I can just see it. You're happily chipping away at the snow drifts when suddenly it gets dark and a second later all the snow is gone as you stare up at tires the height of you ROPS!

 

[sd455dan]

Does a garden tractor have a 3ph or a loader? I thought my Kubota G6500 was a garden tractor which doesn't have either. Does it offend the G6500 when I park it in the same garage as the L3240. Does it offend my little saw when I store it on the same shelf as my 372 XP?

mmm Wonder how my 40 hp Ford tractor feels parked next to my more powerful and larger 4x4 Chinese tractor... :laughing:

i am sure neither care - because they are machines that get used- unlike the new holland skid steer. Which I am considering selling- sorry skid steer

ps- Standing up for the the scuts
-pretty sure they have a heavier frame or married drive train that is stronger and more substantial than the average riding mower/ garden tractor.