Tractor Sizing How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift?

   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #291  
I guess that means a CUT is an overgrown SCUT. Darn... I just offended myself! :banghead:


:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::ashamed:
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #292  
What does that make a large farm tractor?

OK, just so that we are all on the same page... All tractors start life as a lawn tractor and progress through various stages as they grow including...

garden tractor
SCUT
small frame CUT
medium frame CUT
large frame CUT
Kioti DK55 (yes, all tractors at one time in their life become a Kioti DK55 because I still cannot for the life of me figure out if it is a CUT or a UT!)
UT
Row Crop Tractor
Obscenely big multi wheel or tracked unit that may or may not be articulated

So that makes a large farm tractor (assuming row crop) between 45 and 70 years old depending on exactly how big it has grown.
 
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   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #293  
OK, just so that we are all on the same page... All tractors start life as a lawn tractor and progress through various stages as they grow including...

garden tractor
SCUT
small frame CUT
medium frame CUT
large frame CUT
Kioti DK55 (yes, all tractors at one time in their life become a Kioti DK55 because I still cannot for the life of me figure out if it is a CUT or a UT!)
UT
Row Crop Tractor
Obscenely big multi wheel or tracked unit that may or may not be articulated

So that makes a large farm tractor (assuming row crop) between 45 and 70 years old depending on exactly how big it has grown.

You just offended people that have riding lawn mowers by not including them.;)
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #294  
You just offended people that have riding lawn mowers by not including them.;)

I thought a lawn tractor was a riding law mower? Ops! did it again :duh:
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #296  
Garden tractors are bigger and badder than lawn mowers. I am sure it offends a garden tractor owner to call it a lawn mowed....

A SCUT is exactly that. An oversized (overgrown) lawn mower. It's precisley what the mfgs intended. A machine larger that a normal mower, yet still a mower, but add a some tractor features such as a loader and limited 3ph.

If that offends you or you find it "hurtful", either go back to kindergarten or grow up. Do ranger/s10/dakota guys get offended when someone refers to them as small trucks? Do guys with 40-50cc saws vet offended when people call them from saws? Do people with homeowner grade equipment get upset when you call it homeowner grade?

It is what it is. Can't change that. It's not ment to be offensive. Not everything I own is the biggest or best, I buy what I need, big or small, homeowner or pro grade. I understand that and don't have a urge to try and make others thin its something more.
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #297  
Good Lord, talk about a martyr complex....this is ridiculous. Nobody is a victim, nobody is trying to "dominate" new folks (as you stated in an earlier post) and if someone gets their feelings hurt because another person on the internet said their SCUT was an oversized lawn mower, they have some issues that need to be addressed.

For whatever reason, you seem to feel slighted, and don't seem to want to believe people when they post the "problem" (for lack of a better term). First off, it's the tone, and second, it's the very obvious bias you have....in your very own words, not anybody's opinion.

You say the manufacturers post incorrect, or misleading information in their brochures, or omit important details...that's an interesting point. You know why? Because the user manual for your DL95 loader provides most of the information you're asking about. In fact, you posted in a thread on the exact topic here, and it had all the specs listed, along with pictures of the manual....and the manual states a 77Kg bucket was used with the DL95. If you already knew the specs from the manual, why start this thread stating the manufacturer doesn't provide them????

Here's what you said in post #1:




Here's where you posted in the thread on the DL95 loader. Below that are the actual specs you say aren't in the brochure. They are in the loader manual, where they should be. Brochures are for general information, while manuals are specific.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...l-95-vs-dl-100-a-post4095331.html#post4095331

Lifting height at Pivot = 73"
Lifting Height under level bucket = 65"
Max. Load at Max height = 870 lbs
Max. Load at bucket edge (20" from pin) 580 lbs
Max. lift at pin at 1 meter = 1050 lbs
Max load at 1.0 meter (20" from pin) = 760 lbs
Max lift at ground level = 1400 lbs
Max lift at ground level (20" from pin) = 920 lbs
Front axle capacity = 1940 lbs
Rear axle capacity = 2094 lbs


Then there's the issue of being insulting to other posters, or suggesting how they're either lying, or don't know what they're talking about. Your words early on in this thread:



So you don't seem to believe the manufacturers, and don't believe other posters....and say as much, but you want to set the record straight, for whatever reason. That's bias from the outset. If you'd said "My loader specs show XXX numbers, and I want to see if I can duplicate them in real life" it would be one thing, but that's not how it comes across.

It's also kind of funny to sit back and watch the posts you've responded to, and the ones you've seemed to ignore....very telling.

My take on this is he is not reading/ understanding the owners manual or as with many posts here is trying to ignore what he doesn't want to hear for what ever reason.
I looked on the web site and see it states 870 measured at the pins on the brochure and in the spec sheet it clearly listed " Lift capacity to max. height lbs. (kg)* 580LBS (270) as measured 31.5" Forward of the pins". Now not even having an owners manual at my disposal I could easily find the ratings so I clearly don't understand how someone who has the manual could not find them. Anyone with any experience or simply spending a few min searching here will easily come to the understanding that 31.5" out from the pins is a lot and that the 870 and 580 are two totally different numbers for different reasons. AS you stated the brochure is to make it sound good the specs listed on the spec sheet and in the manual are specific for a reason.
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #299  
Thank you. That was educational.

Yes it was.. I always thought of SCUTS as small tractors, Now according to that tutorial, well they seem to be overgrown lawn mowers.:shocked:

What ever they are, they sure are useful.:thumbsup:
 

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