Tresspassing neighbors

[lostcreekranch]

He most likely occupies and uses his land, so things like that won't happen. If you just own land to show how much of a big shot you are, what does it harm if somebody uses it so long as they respect it? The only thing the OP's "trespassers" left behind was pictures. My neighbor to the east and south has about 60 acres... I've been here since 2001 and have never seen them. (Their other adjacent landowner has been there 30+ years and never seen them.) The only indirect contact I've had was when they tried to prevent the power company to run lines down the town road... " There's NO reason to have power down there," they said. I occasionally walk their land with a rifle or shotgun; what harm am I doing? I also would report any of the above mentioned nefarious activities to the Sheriff's department. Up here we have 3.2 million contiguous acres of privately owned land, which anybody can use for hunting, camping, canoeing, hiking, snowsledding... pretty much any non consumptive use. It really is a regional attitude...

So, you think you have the right to trespass on your neighbor's property, when ever you want to with guns, because it's a "regional attitude"? You should thank your lucky stars you don't live in Texas because, that "regional attitude" would not end well here. Our property is our property!

Guess your "regional attitude" allows you to enter your neighbor's homes or anyone's home, at will, with guns because "what harm are you doing"? I, for one, lump you in with the people that the OP got on his game camera.

Please don't take offense at my comments ........ learn from them?

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[David P]

I have 7 acres , 4 of it field that I recently bought . There is a development about 4 miles away . I was working on getting the house ready to rent during the week. There was a bunch of beer bottles back in the field . I knew something was up . So I get a call from a neighbor one night about some cars in the field . ( property is posted ) . I get there , there are about 8 young guys there drinking , had a nice little fire . I didnt want to confront them , so I called the fire dept , and the police . Lights flashing and sirens . The boys got ticketed for the fire , a summons for tresspassing , and their cars got towed . One boy out of 8 had the courage ( or was told to) to write me , apologise , and ask if there was anything he could to do to make things right . I commended him , told him he could get some trash bags and clean up their mess . This boy not only cleaned up the cans and bottles they put there , he picked up other stuff that was trash that was in the wood line . About a 20 yard can . I was impressed . i asked him where he worked , he didnt have a job. I made a phone call to a buddy of mine told him , he said " send the guy over " He got hired and is still working for the guy .

That was a very classy move and I commend you for it. Sounds like the kid learned a very valuable lesson, made amends, went above and beyond in the clean up and will never forget it for the rest of his life.

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

It's funny, I grew up in Texas and these guys are right about the sense of absolute control and power over "your" land. In fact, so much so they can't even fathom that it might be a regional attitude. Your land is no different than you car or boat. Well it is different here. This misconception is exacerbated by the fact that Texas has SO little public land. So a private somebody really does own everything. It was the same in NC but less so.
Took me a while to get used to the difference when I moved up here to New England. (especially since as a kid I Imagined New England as this tiny area where the entire place was wall to wall urban city).

 

[lostcreekranch]

It's funny, I grew up in Texas and these guys are right about the sense of absolute control and power over "your" land. In fact, so much so they can't even fathom that it might be a regional attitude. Your land is no different than you car or boat. Well it is different here. This misconception is exacerbated by the fact that Texas has SO little public land. So a private somebody really does own everything. It was the same in NC but less so. Took me a while to get used to the difference when I moved up here to New England. (especially since as a kid I Imagined New England as this tiny area where the entire place was wall to wall urban city).

Luke;

Public land and private land, regardless of region, are different! I own my land, my house, etc., end of story. No one has a right, because of "regional attitude" to enter my land, my home, or my anything at will.

I am also, as are you, an "owner" of all public lands. Try entering federal areas, after hours?

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[Jstpssng]

So, you think you have the right to trespass on your neighbor's property, when ever you want to with guns, because it's a "regional attitude"? You should thank your lucky stars you don't live in Texas because, that "regional attitude" would not end well here. Our property is our property!

Guess your "regional attitude" allows you to enter your neighbor's homes or anyone's home, at will, with guns because "what harm are you doing"? I, for one, lump you in with the people that the OP got on his game camera.

Please don't take offense at my comments ........ learn from them?

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Did you read my post? If you want to do so, then OBJECTIVELY answer my questions, we can continue this conversation.
Please note, Texas is a different region and if I were to travel there I would respect the local customs. The problem is that people from " away" - including Texas- come up here and expect to be able to shoot anybody who comes into their land- except wait, they really don't own it, their line is 1/2 mile west, as happened to me last month. On two separate occasions I've had people in New York threaten to shoot coworkers even though we were working for the landowner... Your "shoot first" attitude doesn't fly well with me.

Again, if I was in Texas it would be different.

There's a BIG difference between somebody's house, and a piece of land which they never visit. As I asked before, where's the harm if I respect it?

If they had a No Trespassing sign it would be different... I have yet to see a gate which I can't get through- when I'm working for the landowner- yet the simple word -NO- will keep me out.

 

[lostcreekranch]

Did you read my post? If you want to do so, then OBJECTIVELY answer my questions, we can continue this conversation. Please note, Texas is a different region and if I were to travel there I would respect the local customs. The problem is that people from " away" - including Texas- come up here and expect to be able to shoot anybody who comes into their land- except wait, they really don't own it, their line is 1/2 mile west, as happened to me last month. On two separate occasions I've had people in New York threaten to shoot coworkers even though we were working for the landowner... Your "shoot first" attitude doesn't fly well with me. Again, if I was in Texas it would be different. There's a BIG difference between somebody's house, and a piece of land which they never visit. As I asked before, where's the harm if I respect it? If they had a No Trespassing sign it would be different... I have yet to see a gate which I can't get through- when I'm working for the landowner- yet the simple word -NO- will keep me out.

Your response is BS, especially your "shoot first" crap and really deserves no response. But again, I put you in the class of the OP's trespassers! It's not your land, you have NO inherent right to trespass on it without explicit permission of the owner, regardless of region,

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[Jstpssng]

It's funny, I grew up in Texas and these guys are right about the sense of absolute control and power over "your" land. In fact, so much so they can't even fathom that it might be a regional attitude. Your land is no different than you car or boat. Well it is different here. This misconception is exacerbated by the fact that Texas has SO little public land. So a private somebody really does own everything. It was the same in NC but less so.
Took me a while to get used to the difference when I moved up here to New England. (especially since as a kid I Imagined New England as this tiny area where the entire place was wall to wall urban city).

Thank you for your explanation. It helps me to understand where others are coming from, and not just in this thread.

Your response is BS, especially your "shoot first" crap and really deserves no response. But again, I put you in the class of the OP's trespassers! It's not your land, you have NO inherent right to trespass on it without explicit permission of the owner, regardless of region,

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See above. Yet if you think that it's OK to threaten a landowner's representative- No matter WHAT state you are in- then I pray that you never visit my state.

I don't take threats lightly.

 

[Citydude]

Did you read my post... or just skim a few words and jerk your knee?

I read it. So why the attitude? So now you don't want people roaming your property?

 

[MossRoad]

.... It's not your land, you have NO inherent right to trespass on it without explicit permission of the owner, regardless of region,...

In some states, if its not posted, its considered "open unless posted" which means anyone can walk right in if its not posted. So they DO have inherent right to go onto that land. Since its a right, its not trespass.

I found this concept pretty hard to fathom, as growing up in Indiana, we had it drilled into our heads that you don't go onto other people's land without permission or you'd be trespassing. Several yeas ago here on TBN, this topic came up and I argued that its trespassing if you do this. However, several folks posted links to the laws in their states, and sure enough, if its NOT posted, its considered OPEN. As foreign as this concept is to me, it is the law in other places.

You need to realize this and learn the laws in other states. They aren't the same as they are in your state.

 

[lostcreekranch]

Thank you for your explanation. It helps me to understand where others are coming from, and not just in this thread. See above. Yet if you think that it's OK to threaten a landowner's representative- No matter WHAT state you are in- then I pray that you never visit my state. I don't take threats lightly.

So, if you trespass on someone's property, you proclaim yourself an "owner's representative".

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