Movin South... Silly yankee questions...

   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #51  
In my experience with family moving to Texas, Arizona, Southern Mississippi and Florida, the difficulty in assimilating is greatly overblown, If you treat people right, you can live anywhere, it is more about the kind of person you are than where you live.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #52  
In my experience with family moving to Texas, Arizona, Southern Mississippi and Florida, the difficulty in assimilating is greatly overblown, If you treat people right, you can live anywhere, it is more about the kind of person you are than where you live.

I agree with that. And really appreciate your choice of the word assimilate. My problem was that you really needed to assimilate in some key ways. Ways that in the Southwest and Northeast people (in general) just live and let live. At least that has been mine and my families experience.
I do apologize to te OP for working to change this into a "be careful moving to the south thread." There are some incredibly beautiful areas.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #54  
Instead of high heating bills, prepare for high air conditioning bills.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #55  
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Yall can have Chiggers. No Chamber of Commerce, ever, mentioned those....

I have lived in five southern states, spent many days in the woods in all seasons, and as a kind only got bit by ticks and infested with chiggers, one time each.

Then I moved to NC and ticks and chiggers are everywhere. Never seen anything like it. Ticks and chiggers are so bad we have to use DEET and long pants during the late spring, summer and into fall. Once it starts turning cold, the chiggers disappear but the ticks can be found year round. We just took a tick off the dog. :( At least in the cold, there are not as many ticks and they move slow. :rolleyes:

I think the reason we have more ticks and chiggers is that the deer population has exploded since I was a kid.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #56  
Interesting to compare the challenges of a northerner moving south and vice versa. I think they are quite different problems. My mother (FL) and wife (AL) are both from the deep south but I'm a dyed in the wool Yankee. My best friend in high school was orginally from Alabama and we spent hours and hours playing a complicated Gettysburg board game for years, always taking the predictable side. So, yes, there are significant cultural differences and those seem to have been set in stone well before the Civil War. Yes, northerners are brash and their "normal" behavior is often grating to southerners who generally avoid conflict in social interactions. Yes, northerners are still operating under the "good fences make good neighbors" philosophy while southerners are famously hospitable. However, I don't think that a southerner moving north would need to worry at all about being accepted at work or neighborhood or socially. We not only tolerate southerners up here but we almost always like them. We even like Texans, at least as individuals (why are Texans so pleasant individually and so nuts as a group???) I think a good part of it is that deep down northerners are not at all threatened by southerners. We like their food, their accents are charming, they are almost always personable so what's not to like? Really no issue for a southerner moving north except for their need to adapt to our winters and less charming society. And, it is certainly easier to get good BBQ up north than it is to find a clam bake or good kielbasa or bagels in most of the south.

A northerner moving south however would find 1) near universal suspicion regarding dam uppity Yankees, 2) difficulty breaking into society without joining a church, 3) be considered a pinko if they didn't own a pickup and at least half a dozen firearms. Most importantly, because northerners are at baseline less comfortable dropping in to say hello and more likely to mind their own business, the various stereotypes applied to those from the north tend to be confirmed. Yankees don't automatically adopt southern customs so they remain outsiders. There is a relatively tight social bond between folks in the south and northerners aren't easily accepted largely because they simply don't have any experience with that type of society. We make friends at school and work but are much less likely to have tight neighborhood bonds (exceptions in some big cities like NYC and Boston but in that case the tight neighborhood bonds typically serve primarily to exclude outsiders from other neighborhoods rather than as an open welcoming community so common in the south).

Overall, I'd rather be a southerner moving north. Just learn to use a snow shovel and get some proper snow tires. No complex and delicate social structure to navigate.

Your post fits right in with my assessment. I felt like an alien my one visit to New York City, but felt right at home in Mount Vernon. Yankees, as a rule are well accepted here; the problem comes when they display arrogance or contempt and try to tell us dumb Okies how we ought to be doing things that we're quite happy with. Attitude is everything. We have one couple at the Elks Lodge (which, BTW might be a good place to become part of the community, if you like good food, good beer and good conversation) from Boston I believe, that no one would mistake for Southerners, but are simply wonderful people, in spite of her sometimes abrasive manner.

Might help to learn bass fishing, tomato culture, develop a taste for fried okra and if you like to talk sports, especially football, make sure where you are standing, geographically speaking. And don't wear an LSU Tee Shirt in Alabama.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #57  
I think the reason we have more ticks and chiggers is that the deer population has exploded since I was a kid.

Later,
Dan

There are no, or very few chiggers where I'm at. We have some ticks, but I've been places where they where a lot worse. Most years I never encounter a tick at all. From what I've been told, there used to be a lot of ticks and the chiggers where horrible, but when the fire ants took over, all that changed. I can't prove any of this, but I've heard it from so many people that have lived here forever that it might be what's happened.

I hate fire ants, but after awhile, I've learned to respect them and avoid them. The war will never end with them, but given the choice of chiggers or fire ants, I'll take the ants.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #58  
Back to the snake issue. Out here in the Mojave there are numerous venomous snakes. Our Golden is now 12.5 years old and about 10 years ago we took her to Rattlesnake Avoidance training. It's much cheaper and much much better for the dog to avoid snakes than to be treated afterwards. They tell you to have the dog "retrained" every 2 years but after 10 years Tess will not go near ANY snake.

This also serves a second purpose as it alerts us to snakes while we are out walking long before we see them (or feel them:D).

At the time it only cost $75.00 and takes about 10 minutes!

Google it for more information.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #59  
There are no, or very few chiggers where I'm at. We have some ticks, but I've been places where they where a lot worse. Most years I never encounter a tick at all. From what I've been told, there used to be a lot of ticks and the chiggers where horrible, but when the fire ants took over, all that changed. I can't prove any of this, but I've heard it from so many people that have lived here forever that it might be what's happened. I hate fire ants, but after awhile, I've learned to respect them and avoid them. The war will never end with them, but given the choice of chiggers or fire ants, I'll take the ants.

Eddie;

I attended a seminar, put on by our Colorado County Agri-Life Extension Agent about the Tawny Crazy Ants that have now been found in our County. They will be the new fire ant replacement and are much harder to control as they are very random and don't make mounds like the imported fire ant.

Dr. Robert Pucket,from TAMU, gave a presentation on what TAMU and other universities are researching on their migration and various control techniques. According to the maps he had they are not in your area ....... yet. But they are coming. I will post his presentation when I get near my computer. TAMU believes that the Tawny Crazy Ant might displace the Imported Fire Ant but, we will not be happy if that happens.

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   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #60  
I think I would rather have ticks than chiggers / red bugs ,or what ever term you use for them.. I don't think there's anything as bad.. You don't know you have them until it's too late...I'm usually not thinking about them when I go into the woods ,or field. Then, a couple days latter, I wish I had thought about them !
 

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